Kindle Paperwhite 2-Voyage Software Update 5.6.5 - Page 7

Atunah · 08-11-2015, 12:55 PM

I am so confused. I just put some books with the enhanced setting into my calibre via K4PC and it worked fine in there. Now I only use my calibre as a storage so to speak of my de-drm-ed books, I read them on my kindles, now Voyage by pulling them in through the cloud. So I have the enhanced settings and a stored copy in my calibre. I don't care if that copy is mobi, az3 or whatever it is. I just want to have a backup in case of who knows.
So its it still working or not, or will that stop. Befuddled is my middle name.

I have margins as I always had by the way, before and after re-downloading some books. No change there on my Voyage. There is hyphenation, but thankfully not a lot. I remember when the Scribd app updated a while ago and suddenly not only did i have huge margins, there was hyphenation going on in almost every other line.

jhowell · 08-11-2015, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

There are plenty of DRM free books with enhanced typesetting. This one is free:

amazon.com/gp/product/B00IMLL63O

I downloaded it for sideloading, unpacked it, didn't see anything special but as people point out maybe you have to deliver directly. I have not tried copying it off of the device to see what is going on.

Although that book downloads as a DRM-free azw3 file for sideloading, if you send it directly to your Kindle the kfx file appears to have some sort of DRM.

Some strings from the file header:

DRMION
ProtectedData
amzn1.drm-key.v1.903e8a5d-459e-4011-bd4b-c961100a002b
amzn1.drm-voucher.v1.019d0cfc-3674-432a-8bdb-cbe906e2de38

shalym · 08-11-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tomsem

There are plenty of DRM free books with enhanced typesetting. This one is free:

amazon.com/gp/product/B00IMLL63O

I downloaded it for sideloading, unpacked it, didn't see anything special but as people point out maybe you have to deliver directly. I have not tried copying it off of the device to see what is going on.

And this confirms that the error that I got has nothing to do with DRM--I got the exact same error trying to open this book as I did with the other one I tried.

Shari

odamizu · 08-11-2015, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

I have taken a quick look inside some kfx files on my Kindle and I see that it is a significantly different format from previous Kindle formats. None of the existing software or "tools" can handle this as they are now.

When you say you are looking inside, do you mean you're looking at raw binary? I take it "existing software or tools" includes KindleUnpack, Alf and Calibre?

eschwartz · 08-11-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

This is starting (maybe) to get like the B&N situation.

You mean... not allowing people to download their books from a web browser or old devices and DeDRM them?

jhowell · 08-11-2015, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

When you say you are looking inside, do you mean you're looking at raw binary? I take it "existing software or tools" includes KindleUnpack, Alf and Calibre?

Yes and yes.

patrickt · 08-11-2015, 01:51 PM

My Paperwhite 3 and my Voyage 1 are both fine. The typesetting is working, the margins are fine, the new font is okay. I must be blessed.

shalym · 08-11-2015, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

My Paperwhite 3 and my Voyage 1 are both fine. They typesetting is working, the margins are fine, the new font is okay. I must be blessed.

Yes--everything works perfectly for books that are downloaded directly to the Kindle from Amazon and read on that Kindle. What we're trying to do is figure out a way for people to create books with the enhancements that can be sideloaded to the Kindle. So far, we're not having any luck.

Shari

SCION · 08-11-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

In my case, only books with hyphenation have the wide margins at the narrowest setting. I've downloaded books with advanced typesetting enabled, that do not have hyphenation for whatever reason, and the margins are normal.

So it seems to either be a bug or my PW3 (if no one else has this specific issue).

I'm going to reset the device.

SCION · 08-11-2015, 02:49 PM

Apparently it's a problem with those two books I re-downloaded. I found a book with advanced typesetting enabled, with hyphenation. The margins are normal.

GERGE · 08-11-2015, 03:09 PM

Restricting sideloaded books... I can't decide whether or not this is a good business decision.

On one hand, I will not buy a Kindle like this; on the other, if I had a Kindle, I would be a lot more inclined to buy from Amazon.

shalym · 08-11-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GERGE

Restricting sideloaded books... I can't decide whether or not this is a good business decision.

On one hand, I will not buy a Kindle like this; on the other, if I had a Kindle, I would be a lot more inclined to buy from Amazon.

Books can still be sideloaded onto any Kindle, they just can't be in the .kfx format. Since that format is ONLY available to people who can download directly from Amazon to their Kindle, there really isn't a problem. I can still choose to download a book from Amazon to my PC and load it onto my Kindle using the USB Cable.

Shari

Fbone · 08-11-2015, 04:23 PM

Am I correct in saying that if you want to save/store your books and have the new typography settings, you need to download 2 files? One directly to Kindle and a second by way of K4PC/USB to remove DRM?

odamizu · 08-11-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

Yes and yes.

<sigh> and <sigh>

Thank you for the info.

jhowell · 08-11-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbone

Am I correct in saying that if you want to save/store your books and have the new typography settings, you need to download 2 files? One directly to Kindle and a second by way of K4PC/USB to remove DRM?

Yes, at least for now.

08-11-2015, 01:51 PM	#97
patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	My Paperwhite 3 and my Voyage 1 are both fine. The typesetting is working, the margins are fine, the new font is okay. I must be blessed. Last edited by patrickt; 08-11-2015 at 05:43 PM.

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08-11-2015, 12:55 PM	#91
Atunah Wizard Posts: 1,817 Karma: 23400001 Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Device: K1/K3/BasicK Voyage/Oasis1/Oasis3	I am so confused. I just put some books with the enhanced setting into my calibre via K4PC and it worked fine in there. Now I only use my calibre as a storage so to speak of my de-drm-ed books, I read them on my kindles, now Voyage by pulling them in through the cloud. So I have the enhanced settings and a stored copy in my calibre. I don't care if that copy is mobi, az3 or whatever it is. I just want to have a backup in case of who knows. So its it still working or not, or will that stop. Befuddled is my middle name. I have margins as I always had by the way, before and after re-downloading some books. No change there on my Voyage. There is hyphenation, but thankfully not a lot. I remember when the Scribd app updated a while ago and suddenly not only did i have huge margins, there was hyphenation going on in almost every other line.

08-11-2015, 02:49 PM	#100
SCION Séduisant Posts: 4,706 Karma: 2107018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas, USA Device: Boox Note Air2+; Kobo Libra2; Kindle Scribe, Oasis3; iPad Mini6	Apparently it's a problem with those two books I re-downloaded. I found a book with advanced typesetting enabled, with hyphenation. The margins are normal.

08-11-2015, 03:09 PM	#101
GERGE Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 5797160 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Istanbul Device: Kobo Libra	Restricting sideloaded books... I can't decide whether or not this is a good business decision. On one hand, I will not buy a Kindle like this; on the other, if I had a Kindle, I would be a lot more inclined to buy from Amazon.

08-11-2015, 04:23 PM	#103
Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,205 Karma: 101596194 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	Am I correct in saying that if you want to save/store your books and have the new typography settings, you need to download 2 files? One directly to Kindle and a second by way of K4PC/USB to remove DRM?

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