Consumer Reports: Nook Beats The Kindle

[OtterBooks]

Ah, thank you. I only looked at the files organized under "Doyle," not "Conan Doyle." I'm too tired to question the existence of both.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by Crowl

Was this purely an exclusivity deal or did have more to do with those two companies simply putting in large enough orders that they used up all the production during that period anyway.

As far as I know, it was exclusive. I don't know if the actual contract specified that they would buy all the screens that are made in the first six months.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Not necessarily. Human fingers (or at least, MY human fingers) are too big and clumsy to be able to accurately and reliably select text on a touch screen.

My Pocketbook 903 uses a stylus. With this the size of the fingers doesn't matter.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

My Pocketbook 903 uses a stylus. With this the size of the fingers doesn't matter.

Well, yes, the Sony has a stylus, too. But having to get the stylus out of its slot in order to select text makes it a much lengthier and more fiddly operation.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Well, yes, the Sony has a stylus, too. But having to get the stylus out of its slot in order to select text makes it a much lengthier and more fiddly operation.

But since the reader comes with a solution, why complain about it?
And I would think that it takes more time to go with the arrow keys to a specific place than it takes to take the stylus out.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

But since the reader comes with a solution, why complain about it?
And I would think that it takes more time to go with the arrow keys to a specific place than it takes to take the stylus out.

It doesn't, because remember, it moves "word by word", and the screen wraps around at all four sides. It really is easier - I speak from practical experience here.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by HarryT

You haven't looked very hard

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12677

Obvious though it is to point this out, please don't download this if you live in the United States since, as you know, the final Holmes book, "The Case-book of Sherlock Holmes", is still under US copyright. It's all in the public domain pretty much everywhere else.

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by HarryT

It doesn't, because remember, it moves "word by word", and the screen wraps around at all four sides. It really is easier - I speak from practical experience here.

I guess this is subjective. For one thing, it would strongly depend on the preferred font size. I have a 9.7" screen, and I usually go for the second lowest font size, and that means more words per page. For another, I find continuously pressing buttons to be annoying.

[CommonReader]

bvious though it is to point this out, please don't download this if you live in the United States since, as you know, the final Holmes book, "The Case-book of Sherlock Holmes", is still under US copyright. It's all in the public domain pretty much everywhere else.

I admit that this is OT but how can books written by an author who died in 1930 not be in the public domain?

[rdfry]

Originally Posted by CommonReader

bvious though it is to point this out, please don't download this if you live in the United States since, as you know, the final Holmes book, "The Case-book of Sherlock Holmes", is still under US copyright. It's all in the public domain pretty much everywhere else.

I admit that this is OT but how can books written by an author who died in 1930 not be in the public domain?

For a short time, Holmes was out of copyright—then a Conan Doyle heir recovered the rights under the Copyright Act of 1976. According to a literary agent for the Conan Doyle estate, Holmes remains under copyright protection until 2023 in the US.

[CommonReader]

Originally Posted by rdfry

For a short time, Holmes was out of copyright—then a Conan Doyle heir recovered the rights under the Copyright Act of 1976. According to a literary agent for the Conan Doyle estate, Holmes remains under copyright protection until 2023 in the US.

Thanks.

[spellbanisher]

Originally Posted by rdfry

For a short time, Holmes was out of copyright—then a Conan Doyle heir recovered the rights under the Copyright Act of 1976. According to a literary agent for the Conan Doyle estate, Holmes remains under copyright protection until 2023 in the US.

This only applies to the Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes. Any book published before 1923 is in the US public domain. All other Sherlock Holmes novels and short stories are in the US public domain. Two stories of the Case-book, "The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone," and "The Problem of the Bridge," are in the US public domain because they were published before 1923.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by boswd

The question is and I'll admit I'm going to be very curious to the reacton of the kindle owners here. The ones who are saying this and that about touch and how the kindle's current form is the best etc etc.

It seems to me that most of us Kindle owners here are quite realistic and honest about our devices. You (that is, a few Kindle-bashing nook fanbois) just can't seem to see--or at least you claim to be unable to see--the truth that we actually like what we say we like. You keep using words like 'dated', which has a lot of negative import, and 'obsolete'. The truth is, just being older does not make something dated or obsolete. The Kindle is proven and reliable and it's hardware gives us many features and benefits we like that NO other reader offers.
We don't feel 'locked in' to Amazon, even those us who buy from Amazon and keep DRM intact, because shopping at Amazon and reading on Kindles and Kindle apps is part of the reasons why we chose the Kindle. (Yes, I'm presuming to speak for Kindle owners as a group. Of course individuals vary.)
And I see horrible hypocrisy in crying about Amazon's 'lock in' while dismissing that B&N proprietary DRM results in exactly the same sort of 'lock in' for those who choose to purchase those books from b&n...that being the only device integrated store, which I suspect the majority of owners use.
I see the same hypocrisy in other threads with the claims that using some 3rd party tools along with the Kindle somehow 'doesn't count' or something because it's 'not supported' but the buggy, hidden, disavowed browser fragment in the new nook some how qualifies as a feature.

When and if Amazon makes a touch model. and they probably will, depending on what they come up with, some of us will like and some of won't.

And I predict they when that happens, you will doubtlessly tell the ones who like it that they are 'backpedaling' and being 'Kindle fanbois' and you will tell those who don't like it that they don't really know what they like and must be lying or, have an 'obsolete tech fetish' or some nonsense.

Grr!

ApK

[SleepyBob]

Originally Posted by ApK

And I see horrible hypocrisy in crying about Amazon's 'lock in' while dismissing that B&N proprietary DRM results in exactly the same sort of 'lock in' for those who choose to purchase those books from b&n...that being the only device integrated store, which I suspect the majority of owners use.

Hypocrisy? B&N's 'lock in':
A) lets you buy popular books from many sources other than B&N, and
B) lets you read your B&N purchased ebooks on e-ink readers other than then Nook line.

You really don't see a difference between a company that prevents other e-readers from being able to read its proprietary-format ebooks, and a company that puts its books in a publicly accessible format that can be read by any e-reader that chooses to implement it?

B&N can't force all other e-reader companies to upgrade their software to read B&N DRM'd books any more than they can force them to support PDF files. But the fact that they can choose to (and that they are starting to) is a HUGE difference, IMO. You may not decide that it affects you and you don't care about Amazon's lock-in, but I don't see how anyone can pretend that the two positions are equivalent.

[OtterBooks]

Originally Posted by HarryT

You haven't looked very hard

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12677

Obvious though it is to point this out, please don't download this if you live in the United States since, as you know, the final Holmes book, "The Case-book of Sherlock Holmes", is still under US copyright. It's all in the public domain pretty much everywhere else.

So actually it appears I looked quite hard enough indeed, and the complete works are not available to me for free. At least legally. The plot thickens. It would seem then that the 99 cent charge on Amazon(U.S.) is not entirely unreasonable.

I presume the MB library is not hosted in the U.S.