03-22-2012, 06:42 AM | #91 |
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I know people whom will not buy anything with protection on it, and deliberately go look for pirated copies so that they can have a copy its not protected. These same people have no problem buying stuff with out protection on it.
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03-22-2012, 07:31 AM | #92 |
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Curious ... I don't know quite what else to say. Is there any reason to think that the numbers of such people would be significant versus, for example, those that, being happy to make a legitimate purchase but don't just like DRM and simply strip it? (These latter appear to be reasonably common, at least from what I've seen in past conversations on this forum.)
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03-22-2012, 07:54 AM | #93 | |
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I think here on this forum the "hate" for DRM is much much much higher the rest of the world. |
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03-22-2012, 09:21 AM | #94 | |
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VS opined that DRM encourages piracy and gave a very valid example of people who look for DRM free versions rather than try to strip, convert, etc. Whether or not that very likely small group outweighs another group has nothing to do with VS' original opinion. Another way that DRM encourages piracy is if you consider the very act of stripping DRM to be "piracy" then anyone who buys an Amazon exclusive with DRM, strips the DRM, and loads it to another reader is pirating. Even if the book is available at multiple stores, that doesn't necessarily solve the problem -- a Nook owner who moves to Europe is going to have trouble buying from B&N since they don't sell overseas. |
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03-22-2012, 09:45 AM | #95 |
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A huge majority of people don't care either way.*
A huge majority of people won't notice whether or not there is DRM. The only time, in fact, that you do notice DRM is when it stops you doing something you want to do with a book you have paid for. The question could be whether what you want to do with your book is relatively innocent (put it on another device) or not (put it on your website for public download). Which group is likely to be bigger? *Of those who do care, I'm pretty sure exactly none of them are pro-DRM. |
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If you strip DRM but continue to use the material under the other conditions that cover copyrighted material, then the only thing you have broken is the license condition saying you must not remove the DRM. So, no, I would not say that stripping DRM is, of itself, a form a piracy. It is merely a violation of that one the license condition, which has nothing to do with copyright. It's what you do later that may make you guilty of violating copyright and so guilty piracy. And what you do later you can do as easily with non-DRM material as you can with material from which you have stripped DRM. At least that's my interpretation. |
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It's not unlikely that a change like this will happen; long-term, I think it's a certainty. The popularity of companies' use of DRM and Amazon's proprietary format baffles me - at least until I remember that almost all of today's younger generations see cloud storage and computing as innovative ideas that have never been done. It's likely today's crop of consumers will one day be severely schooled in the benefits of local storage and ownership. Maybe only then will DRM become unpopular in general. DRM circumvents fair use, and that's why it will die. Last edited by no.guru; 03-22-2012 at 12:17 PM. Reason: English as she is wrotten |
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This fact that the stupid bloody thing shouldn't be there in the first place is irrelevant. |
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Cory Doctorow's talk last December (The Coming War on General Purpose Computation) is relevant to this discussion.
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“Getting rid of your e-book's DRM is allowed for personal use, such as making backup copies or transferring your e-book onto a different device. However, breaking DRM in order to distribute or access pirated copies can get you in serious legal trouble. Violating copyright law can land you with heavy fees or even jail time. Do not share your DRM-hacked e-books with anyone else.” Quote:
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If DVD ripping software was legal to sell/distribute in the US, you can be sure it would be in iTunes and other products from major software companies. |
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