KINDLE FORCED UPGRADE - Page 6

jhowell · 11-06-2020, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haertig

"I can't upgrade because XYZ". The only value for XYZ that I am aware of is "I want to DeDRM my purchases, and the upgraded version doesn't support that".

That's not quote true. You can disable KFX downloads, and thereby allow DeDRM, using even the most recent version of Kindle for PC. It just takes a couple of additional steps to do it. See Method 2 under Dealing with Kindle for PC/Mac 1.19 (and later) and KFX in calibre.

lkmiller · 11-07-2020, 05:06 AM

Yes, 1.17 will eventually stop working. Just like the previous version did. When that happens, I'll move to one of the other workarounds.

Phthon · 11-09-2020, 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=jhowell;4051217]Another way to disable Kindle for PC updates is to replace the "updates" folder with a file of the same name. That prevents an update from being downloaded. Kindle for PC will still ask if you want to download the new update each time it is restarted, but it will not be able to do so.

I have created a simple Windows batch file to preform this change. See attached.

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Hello,

I feel strange running a batch file without know exactly what it does. I have no problem doing things manually. I cannot tell if I create a .txt file and name it updates without the extension or if I am on the wrong track. Would you mind elaborating?

Thanks!

jhowell · 11-09-2020, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phthon

I feel strange running a batch file without know exactly what it does.

The batch file removes the existing "updates" folder, located at "%LocalAppData%\Amazon\Kindle\updates", and creates a file of the same name in its place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phthon

I cannot tell if I create a .txt file and name it updates without the extension or if I am on the wrong track.

Yes. That is one way to do it.

DNSB · 11-09-2020, 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=Phthon;4056364]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowell

Another way to disable Kindle for PC updates is to replace the "updates" folder with a file of the same name. That prevents an update from being downloaded. Kindle for PC will still ask if you want to download the new update each time it is restarted, but it will not be able to do so.

I have created a simple Windows batch file to preform this change. See attached.

------

Hello,

I feel strange running a batch file without know exactly what it does. I have no problem doing things manually. I cannot tell if I create a .txt file and name it updates without the extension or if I am on the wrong track. Would you mind elaborating?

Thanks!

Yes, you would create an updates file with no file extension.

haertig · 11-09-2020, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phthon

I feel strange running a batch file without know exactly what it does. I have no problem doing things manually.

A batch file is just a text file that contains commands from the command processors allowable set, entered using correct syntax. You can look at it and see what it does. It is human-readable.

(Well, I guess a batch file doesn't technically have to contain allowable commands or even be syntactically correct - but then, it wouldn't work.)

Zora · 11-10-2020, 10:41 PM

Happened to me, 11-5. Tried to delete new verson, re-install old version, didn't work, descended into tech support hell. I was told that I was not allowed to use older versions. Help! I want to be in control of my books.

lena45 · 11-11-2020, 03:38 AM

Hello, i have the same problem and i want to downgrade it, how to do please? Thanks

lkmiller · 11-11-2020, 08:40 AM

Try installing and registering the current version. Then without uninstalling, install the older version. See info at the end of the first post here about getting older versions and keeping them from updating: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=283371

iBeth · 11-13-2020, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haertig

"I can't upgrade because XYZ". The only value for XYZ that I am aware of is "I want to DeDRM my purchases, and the upgraded version doesn't support that".

I admit, "I want to DeDRM my purchases" is a pretty persuasive value. But also I don't like the newer version of K4PC because it is slower. It's slower to load, for sure. And I can download multiple books simultaneously in version 1.17. In the new version that Amazon tried to force on me, I couldn't. Also, version 1.17 has a black background that is easier on the eyes. The new version had a white background, though maybe it has a setting to change the look. Also, I don't like being forced to upgrade. If it's that important for me to upgrade, then persuade me. Don't hijack my computer and force it on me.

Amazon's K4PC behavior is making me increasingly reluctant to purchase kindle books (thank goodness for Kobo!) To the extent that others are like me, it seems to be counter-productive on Amazon's part. Granted, Amazon is such a behemoth that it may not have to care.

Phillip21 · 11-14-2020, 10:59 AM

Your batch file worked for me with Kindle 1.26/Calibre 4.23, and I hope I will be able to stick with those versions for some time - and thus prolong the life of my 2013 e-book reader!

Me_ri · 11-19-2020, 09:30 PM

I've read everything and it's been very informative. Neither the batch file nor creating the updates and temp folders in the Kindle directory worked for me.

It looks like I would have to downgrade to Calibre 4.23 (already have been using Kindle4PC 1.17 for years, etc.)

Does anyone know if Epubor works? Or is that not a good program? I have plenty to read for right now, so it's not an emergency for me.

DNSB · 11-19-2020, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me_ri

I've read everything and it's been very informative. Neither the batch file nor creating the updates and temp folders in the Kindle directory worked for me.

It looks like I would have to downgrade to Calibre 4.23 (already have been using Kindle4PC 1.17 for years, etc.)

Does anyone know if Epubor works? Or is that not a good program? I have plenty to read for right now, so it's not an emergency for me.

Epubor basically steals the DeDRM code so I would not suggest sending them any money.

My workaround for the current situation to to have calibre 5 installed and a portable install of calibre 4.23 x64) (I installed the 32 bit portable version and then unpacked the 64 bit MSI and copied the program file directory into the portable install -- worked like a charm).

For disabling KFX downloads, I've been using the batch file from here to block KFX downloads. The only caveat is that I also set the default device to my Apple device to prevent a KFX download from sneaking in before they are blocked.

lkmiller · 11-20-2020, 05:01 AM

No need for Epubor. It's just a different interface on top of DeDRM's code.

remmons · 11-20-2020, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBeth

I admit, "I want to DeDRM my purchases" is a pretty persuasive value. But also I don't like the newer version of K4PC because it is slower. It's slower to load, for sure. And I can download multiple books simultaneously in version 1.17. In the new version that Amazon tried to force on me, I couldn't. Also, version 1.17 has a black background that is easier on the eyes. The new version had a white background, though maybe it has a setting to change the look. Also, I don't like being forced to upgrade. If it's that important for me to upgrade, then persuade me. Don't hijack my computer and force it on me.

Amazon's K4PC behavior is making me increasingly reluctant to purchase kindle books (thank goodness for Kobo!) To the extent that others are like me, it seems to be counter-productive on Amazon's part. Granted, Amazon is such a behemoth that it may not have to care.

I haven't used Kobo. Why do you think it is better? Are the books DRMed?

11-14-2020, 10:59 AM	#86
Phillip21 Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Pipo Max M1	Thank you jhowell Your batch file worked for me with Kindle 1.26/Calibre 4.23, and I hope I will be able to stick with those versions for some time - and thus prolong the life of my 2013 e-book reader!

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11-07-2020, 05:06 AM	#77
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,321 Karma: 22770070 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	Yes, 1.17 will eventually stop working. Just like the previous version did. When that happens, I'll move to one of the other workarounds.

11-09-2020, 03:14 PM	#78
Phthon Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2016 Device: none	[QUOTE=jhowell;4051217]Another way to disable Kindle for PC updates is to replace the "updates" folder with a file of the same name. That prevents an update from being downloaded. Kindle for PC will still ask if you want to download the new update each time it is restarted, but it will not be able to do so. I have created a simple Windows batch file to preform this change. See attached. ------ Hello, I feel strange running a batch file without know exactly what it does. I have no problem doing things manually. I cannot tell if I create a .txt file and name it updates without the extension or if I am on the wrong track. Would you mind elaborating? Thanks!

11-10-2020, 10:41 PM	#82
Zora Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Honolulu Device: iPod Touch, Nexus tablet	Happened to me, 11-5. Tried to delete new verson, re-install old version, didn't work, descended into tech support hell. I was told that I was not allowed to use older versions. Help! I want to be in control of my books.

11-11-2020, 03:38 AM	#83
lena45 Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2020 Device: none	Hello, i have the same problem and i want to downgrade it, how to do please? Thanks

11-11-2020, 08:40 AM	#84
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,321 Karma: 22770070 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	Try installing and registering the current version. Then without uninstalling, install the older version. See info at the end of the first post here about getting older versions and keeping them from updating: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=283371

11-19-2020, 09:30 PM	#87
Me_ri Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2019 Device: Kobo Libre	I've read everything and it's been very informative. Neither the batch file nor creating the updates and temp folders in the Kindle directory worked for me. It looks like I would have to downgrade to Calibre 4.23 (already have been using Kindle4PC 1.17 for years, etc.) Does anyone know if Epubor works? Or is that not a good program? I have plenty to read for right now, so it's not an emergency for me.

11-20-2020, 05:01 AM	#89
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,321 Karma: 22770070 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	No need for Epubor. It's just a different interface on top of DeDRM's code.

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