03-03-2008, 01:29 PM | #76 | |
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Anyway, my point was just to say that imho, IF (and that's where I'm really not qualified to tell white from black) Bookeen's device goes against GPL licenses, they should be responsible and not only the chinese manufacturer... That was all, sorry if my earlier (and unique) post seemed like making noise... |
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Sho 'nuf! Pop yours open and take a look at the SBC and other hardware tucked inside. Of course, *I'M* not going to be the one who sacrifices *MY* Cybook on the Altar of Expediency! Derek |
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I may have read more into the post than you intended... Anywho, no one has offered to crack open their personal Cybook in order to find out more, so this will have to wait until Bookeen let's us know. Derek |
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I do not understand why you should do it. As has been pointed out it is Bookeen that has sold you the device and it is there responsibility. And they have said that they have to force there suplier to get it (and hopefully they do it). And the original manufacturer can say that they have not distributed the unit to you so why should they care about your questions?
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Yes, I heard back from FSF and they agree that Bookeen must detail what they know about the version of Linux the Cybook uses as well as list the GPL notification. But they stressed that the hardware manufacturer should give up the source code. Derek |
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Is it really against the GPL to sell a thing under condition that people sign a NDA for source code and then give the source code to them? |
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Then the version of embedded Linux used should be the same, yes? Does anyone have the SDK for either? Or the source code? More important, has anyone gotten down to the OS level? Derek |
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I think igorsk is right in that you can redistribute the binaries without problem.
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You may redistribute any GPL-licensed binaries, so everything proprietary needs to be stripped off before.
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Be sure that you know which version of GPL you are talking about. Current GPL is version 3 and Linux only specifies Version 2. It is not released under version 3 of the specification intentionally.
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The really important thing to consider for Bookeen from a pragmatic standpoint (not a legal or ethical one) is that their e-ink product is known best for its attention to open formats. The sort of person who does have strong feelings on free software and its licensing is exactly the kind of person Bookeen is supposed to be appealing to with the Cybook. So they really should have an interest in clearing up as much about the GPL issue as they can on their end.
Again setting aside legal nitty-gritty, the intent of the GPL is that software authors be able to release free software in a form that stays free. That's why groups like the FSF exist - not for the sake of the GPL specifically, but for the sake of authors who want to allow the public to use their code while still retaining some control over how it's used. Whether the license falls under contract or copyright law (and that actually varies according to jurisdiction, for how software licenses are handled), it still boils down to respecting the code authors' wishes in terms of use, modification, and redistribution of their code. So here's hoping Bookeen does remedy the omissions in their documentation, and puts a proper amount of pressure on their hardware supplier to clarify its use of GPLed software and comply with the license. If not they'll just wind up alienating a small but passionate market segment for whom their product would otherwise be perfect. |
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