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These were a group of "good kids", a majority of whom were home schooled and most of whom had very strict home environments. When I showed up for an appointment I made to discuss this with the children's pastor, they basically did not want to discuss the topic since they were "good kids" and "my daughter probably misunderstood the discussion". My daughter ended up breaking up with the friend who had convinced her it would be fun to attend the weekend camp. Evidently the hard sell on being saved was about as attractive as the evening sex talk. |
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As a parent, you have the right to control which kinds of entertainment your children can access. In the US at least, you do not have the right to impose that control on other people through the power of the state, as book bans are a violation of everybody else's First Amendment rights. |
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If I'm not mistaken, rates of teenage sex and pregnancy have been declining for quite some time, so one could argue that increased access to "smut" has led to a decrease in the negative outcomes you've mentioned.
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08-11-2024, 07:54 PM | #82 | |
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From how I read the statistics, unwed teenage mothers occur in all socioeconomic strata though the upper strata can better afford to hide or terminate the pregnancies. And yes, I find the rhetoric about abortion to be rather risible considering the number of people who are anti-abortion even when the pregnancy is the result of rape, incest, endangers the mother's life, etc. The arguments against the morning after pill are even sillier since that leads to the argument that women should be pregnant as often as possible since each ovum that is not fertilized and is lost to a period is a zero-day abortion. Oddly a quick look at the statistics suggests that teenage pregnancies are on a decline though teenage sex still seems to be rather popular. Perhaps those smutty books are teaching the kids about using protection? And really, your comment about single parents is a bit risible. Most of the single parents I know do their best to ensure that their children did not suffer from the lack of two parents in the same house. For the most part, I considered many of those children to be better off with one loving parent rather than two parents, one of whom was stuck in the 1800s. As for STDs, again education does better than ignorance in preventing the spread of STDs. As one friend of my wife said when her husband gave her chlamydia which she did not find out about until a test after she became pregnant, she received an real education in STDs over the next couple of weeks. As for "moral" behaviour? Do feel that beating your wife and children as long as you use a stick no thicker than your thumb is moral? Do you feel that keeping slaves regardless of race is moral? Do you feel that having multiple wives and concubines is moral? Do you agree that a husband and wife are one person and that person is the husband? After all, those have all been accepted behaviour at some point or another in history and some in the current time. As for smutty books encouraging underage sex? There seems to have quite a bit of underage sex before literacy became common so I doubt there is much of a correlation between smutty books and underage sex. Last edited by DNSB; 08-11-2024 at 07:56 PM. |
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Can I offer a sincere apology for starting these threads IIN the first place. I never expected then to take this path.
In many ways I am flabbergasted to see the views being expressed, and to see the restrictions being placed by the few on the many. Over and out Sent from my Pixel 7a using Tapatalk |
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The thread has definitely run its course, but I thought everyone did a pretty decent job of staying within the rules, myself. There's been more heated Kindle vs Kobo threads, IMO. **shrug**
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It is difficult to discuss this subject without getting into politics. I live in Utah and I can assure you that the entire subject is motivated by politics. The people who are pushing this ban and not interested in protecting children. They are only interested in exerting control over others.
A lawsuit was filed to remove a book from school libraries because there was a story in it about two daughters who got their father drunk and had sex with him. Of course, that book was the Bible but the court upheld the ban based on the law. Then a lot of people were saying “but that’s not what we wanted”. So it is a political mess like everything else in the US now. |
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I think I'm joining the exodus from this thread.
But he offered them to a mob first. I suspect that Lot was not going to win father of the year. |
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Wow, reading this thread - it sure looks like my wife and I missed out on a lot of drama by sending our kids to a private school. We never encountered anything like this. The school concentrated on educating the kids, and that's what they did - ignoring the battles and fights between opposing factions in our society. Not picking one side or the other in this incomprehensible fight - but if these kind of battles are what's going on in our public schools, I say get rid of public schools and give us our tax money back.
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