08-07-2009, 04:18 PM | #61 |
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I was basically just stating that really the manga industry doesn't have to change anything, based on their current standards of printing. Most of the mangas I've seen, have been smaller format books, not too far different in size from the screen of my 6" Sony.
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08-07-2009, 04:26 PM | #62 |
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Oh, then we agree, it seems.
Sorry. I thought your initial message may have been sarcastic. - Ahi |
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08-08-2009, 05:49 AM | #63 | |
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Cost is of course a major factor, once the devices can be picked up for little at your local supermarket or possibly subsidised by some sort of contract like mobile phones then things might take off. In the UK things are even slower than the US where the Kindle has at least had a lot of media coverage. Half the people who see my reader didn't even know they existed. |
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It will take longer for ereader devices to reach critical mass, and there are hurdles with electronic books that didn't exist for music (i.e. books are harder to reproduce digitally than music), but generations? I don't think so. We're already seeing better, cheaper devices with each new batch. Within a decade I think that $100 ereaders will be commonplace, and they will be streets ahead of the devices we have right now - just the refining of eink can give us more shades of grey, faster (instant) refresh rates, better battery life, higher resolultion, and better contrast. Look at how far TVs have come in the last decade or mobile phones - I have a phone that is more powerful than the PC I had 10 years ago. If the last 15 years in technology can teach us anything it is that we should never underestimate technological advances. Kids that are in primary school today will probably be reading on electronic devices almost exclusively by the time they are in high school. |
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Following your "reality" will only doom indie authors to obscurity, while maintaining the status quo of Big Pub and holding back an industry that needs to evolve to the new era. |
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I'm not sure how you can "doom" to obscurity that which is already in obscurity. But as we're talking about file sharing, I can't see how exposing yourself to a possible audience of tens of millions, as you would through file sharing, could ever be a bad thing. If we again go by the Golden rule of 5% (as most of the free escalating to premium cost websites use) you're still quite likely to come out ahead, whoever you are. Have you not considered experimenting with that model? Releasing your next book for free on the torrent sites, Feedbooks and elsewhere and seeing if it drives up sales of the rest? You could always do it for a limited time and then replace the pricing if you didn't like the results. |
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08-08-2009, 02:10 PM | #69 |
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I feel the same way. I tried eBooks for the hell of it and, well, I wanted a new gadget. I have not looked back since. I do not buy CD's or paper books any more. It is either the iTunes store or Amazon for me
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I think it's going to take more than a few price drops to convince some people it makes more sense than picking up a cheap/free book and that's life in a "rich" country, there are plenty of places in the world where it's a non starter completely. |
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It might be a matter of, do you like books for the books, or do you just like to read and don't care on what? The first will not switch to an electronic device quickly. They like the books, how they look on the shelves, etc. The second group will switch to electronic devices as soon as they see the books they generally read are also available there. I know of a few people who would like to buy an electronic reader, because it's much more handy, but don't because they can't get the books they want on it.
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Paper books, on the other hand, have used the same basic technology for centuries. Books recorded 400 years ago are readable today, unlike music recorded 80 years ago. Also, conversion from paper to digital is not simple or cheap (could be either, for a very tech-savvy person, but for most people it's neither). And most of the book-reading world does not have computers. Let me repeat that: Most of the population of the world that reads books, don't own a computer. And aren't going to. Because books are cheap, especially used ones, and computers are not, not even used ones, and computers require an expensive infrastructure to support them. Most of the world that listens to music, does *not* listen to recorded music. The billion people in China... the majority of them don't have music-playing devices. But they have music. Their use and enjoyment of music will not be affected by whatever packaging or format takes over the music-device world. Books are not going away for the same reason that synthesizers didn't replace violins, drums, and guitars: because there's a huge populace that's not going to get their entertainment (or education) from an electrically-powered device. Of course, that populace is under-represented in discussions like these, for obvious reasons. But any thoughts about "when ebooks will replace books" will have to consider how many people read in houses without electrical lighting, much less computers. It may be less than a generation from major changes in publishing industries, but the market for paper books isn't going to vanish even if the entire NYT bestseller list goes 100% digital. |
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> Most of the population of the world that reads books,
> don't own a computer. Well, not sure if there are any decent numbers on how many people own computers.. But there are numbers for iternet usage. Firstly, according to www.internetworldstats.com the global "internet penetration" currently sits at 23% In europe it's 48% In US it's 72% As for books, a quote from http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/aug/22/news > A quarter of US adults say they read no books at all in > the past year, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll. So for US it's 75% that read books and 73% that "use internet". Even the global 23% is pretty decent one. Certainly not something that indivcates this: > Kids that are in primary school today will probably be reading > on electronic devices almost exclusively by the time they are > in high school. ..is impossible, or even unlikely. Assuming these kids are not those in developing countries. |
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The idea of moving "from books to ebooks" includes moving from newspapers to rss feeds, from printed catalogs to web listings, from instruction manuals to instructional DVDs. And all those things are happening, but that switch isn't going to happen overnight across all the industries involved. The move from leisure reading on paper to on screen is just a section of the paper-to-pixels transition. Some of the other aspects are going to take a lot longer to change, if they ever do. Quote:
75% of the globe not having computers indicates that books will be around for quite a while. And those kids reading on digital devices? They'll only be exclusive about it if copyright law changes rather drastically in the next ten years. Otherwise, a lot of their casual reading is going to be on paper, because it's not available as ebooks, or they can't afford it. Six teens can read a single copy of Twilight on paper by handing it around; only one--the one whose parent authorized a credit-card purchase--can read it on an ebook device. Keep that in mind: Minors can't even buy ebooks on their own. (There's a twist I haven't seen discussed yet.) Teens won't be buying ebooks as gifts for each other. They won't be skipping a soda at lunch to save up money for an ebook. They won't pick up an ebook they like at a sale. They won't be choosing to read ebooks; they'll read what's handed to them, because they can't buy or share them. Unless the publishing industries start encouraging transferred ownership of ebooks, the switch to digital is going to be stalled. The wealthy will buy all their books new in digital forms; everyone else will buy a few new ebooks (or none), and deal with either paper or pirate versions for the rest. |
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