KINDLE FORCED UPGRADE - Page 5

lkmiller · 10-31-2020, 05:57 AM

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People are working on updating DeDRM to work with calibre 5/Python 3 over at Harper's GitHub. I imagine any update to work with KFX beyond Kindle for PC/Mac 1.26 probably won't happen until after that.

John F · 10-31-2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by remmons

Thanks. That worked for me. I had to do several things:

* Install Kindle for PC version 1.24.3 or less. DO NOT UPDATE
* Disable automatic updates for Kindle. DO NOT UPDATE.
* Create empty text file [KindleDirectory]\update (no extension)
* Delete or rename file [KindleDirectory]\application\render-test.exe
* Install Calibre 4.23 or less. DO NOT UPDATE to version 5.
* Install Apprentice Alf's DRM plugin from https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/

Apprentice Alf's DRM plugin is not currently compatible with Calibre version 5

I wonder how long we will be able to get away with not updating Kindle for PC v1.24.3? Amazon is already trying to force you to update.

**What will we do when Amazon stopps supporting Kindle for PC v1.24.3? Any ideas?**

I think that covers it.

I assume there is a typo in the bolded part? the file should be called "updates"?

frozennorth · 11-01-2020, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by remmons

I wonder how long we will be able to get away with not updating Kindle for PC v1.24.3? Amazon is already trying to force you to update.

**What will we do when Amazon stopps supporting Kindle for PC v1.24.3? Any ideas?**

I buy my books from kobo. The only time I buy a book from amazon, is when it's not available at kobo.

lkmiller · 11-01-2020, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by frozennorth

I buy my books from kobo. The only time I buy a book from amazon, is when it's not available at kobo.

Same. If Amazon makes DRM removal too difficult, I will stop buying from them. As I did with B&N when they made it increasingly difficult.

issybird · 11-01-2020, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lkmiller

Same. If Amazon makes DRM removal too difficult, I will stop buying from them. As I did with B&N when they made it increasingly difficult.

Yes. Even though I prefer to buy from Kobo, I’d buy from Amazon when it was cheaper because it was easier. I’ll just start doing the price match instead.

julesy · 11-01-2020, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by frozennorth

I buy my books from kobo. The only time I buy a book from amazon, is when it's not available at kobo.

It seems to be quite often that the books I want to buy are not at kobo. And dealing with the dead promo codes has deterred me from using kobo more often.

So far this year, I've bought 3 books from Kobo (2 were free), 8 from Amazon and 6 from B&N. Otherwise, my 6 library systems often fulfill me with books I need. I also so far (knock on wood) have been able to use Calibre to deal with B&N books.

Sirtel · 11-01-2020, 02:53 PM

I buy most of my tradpubs from Google Play, but I also buy many Amazon exclusives. It would be a sad day when I could no longer buy from Amazon. There is the USB transfer option, of course, but who knows how long that will last.

The one thing I will never, ever do is buy a book with unremovable DRM.

Barbara1955 · 11-01-2020, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I buy most of my tradpubs from Google Play, but I also buy many Amazon exclusives. It would be a sad day when I could no longer buy from Amazon. There is the USB transfer option, of course, but who knows how long that will last.

The one thing I will never, ever do is buy a book with unremovable DRM.

Amazon Does Not Tell you which format you are buying. What I found is the AWZ are turning into that KX format when it gets to Calibre!! Crazy!

Sirtel · 11-01-2020, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbara1955

Amazon Does Not Tell you which format you are buying. What I found is the AWZ are turning into that KX format when it gets to Calibre!! Crazy!

There are ways to avoid KFX.

Barbara1955 · 11-01-2020, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

There are ways to avoid KFX.

HOW???????????????

lkmiller · 11-02-2020, 01:24 AM

See this post.

Barbara1955 · 11-02-2020, 02:45 PM

Nothing working for me. sigh

lkmiller · 11-03-2020, 08:39 AM

May have to ask over at Alf's blog or Harper's GitHub then.

p38lightning · 11-06-2020, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

I doubt that the updates folder would be hidden. Perhaps a different technique is used for handling updates when K4PC is installed for all users.

I am out of ideas.

Finally got your revised batch file to work. Uninstalled and reloaded my updated Calibre back to 4.23 and reinstalled the needed plug-in. Got the original Kindle 1.17.exe and de-registered my current copy and uninstalled it. Loaded the d/l 1.17 file, re-registered it, ran the batch file which performed instantaneously and flawlessly.

All now is working as it once did. Am culling any recent Kindle d/l's that came downstream in the new format and reloading them in the older straight AZW format. Once that is caught up, I am back to a reasoned normality!

Thanks for your efforts!!!

haertig · 11-06-2020, 07:57 PM

My guess is that it will not be long before Amazon blocks re-registrations of old software versions like 1.17. They will follow that by blocking old versions totally, regardless of previous registration. I think the recent forced upgrade is just the first shot in their salvo.

"Upgrade or it won't work anymore" is a common software distributor tactic. Even more so when the original software was free, and the upgrade is free too. "I can't upgrade because XYZ". The only value for XYZ that I am aware of is "I want to DeDRM my purchases, and the upgraded version doesn't support that".

I don't like it. But I can see why they'd do it. It will be harder to force an upgrade of an older Kindle - physical piece of hardware - though. But it can be done. Tried to buy a new movie for your LaserDisc player recently?

Time will tell.

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10-31-2020, 05:57 AM	#61
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,370 Karma: 22770108 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	@SeaBookGuy People are working on updating DeDRM to work with calibre 5/Python 3 over at Harper's GitHub. I imagine any update to work with KFX beyond Kindle for PC/Mac 1.26 probably won't happen until after that.

11-01-2020, 02:53 PM	#67
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,519 Karma: 230505500 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	I buy most of my tradpubs from Google Play, but I also buy many Amazon exclusives. It would be a sad day when I could no longer buy from Amazon. There is the USB transfer option, of course, but who knows how long that will last. The one thing I will never, ever do is buy a book with unremovable DRM.

11-02-2020, 01:24 AM	#71
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,370 Karma: 22770108 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	See this post.

11-02-2020, 02:45 PM	#72
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Nothing working for me. sigh

11-03-2020, 08:39 AM	#73
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,370 Karma: 22770108 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	May have to ask over at Alf's blog or Harper's GitHub then.

11-06-2020, 07:57 PM	#75
haertig Wizard Posts: 1,804 Karma: 26951450 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	My guess is that it will not be long before Amazon blocks re-registrations of old software versions like 1.17. They will follow that by blocking old versions totally, regardless of previous registration. I think the recent forced upgrade is just the first shot in their salvo. "Upgrade or it won't work anymore" is a common software distributor tactic. Even more so when the original software was free, and the upgrade is free too. "I can't upgrade because XYZ". The only value for XYZ that I am aware of is "I want to DeDRM my purchases, and the upgraded version doesn't support that". I don't like it. But I can see why they'd do it. It will be harder to force an upgrade of an older Kindle - physical piece of hardware - though. But it can be done. Tried to buy a new movie for your LaserDisc player recently? Time will tell.

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