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09-24-2010, 06:29 PM | #46 | |
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Affluence in Europe has a large proportion of non priviliged, At the start of their new life at least, in their new country. They are not the youngster of middle and upper class that i intended to address. Let me just add a little consideration. My direct experience is that the vast majority of foreigners or of new citizen where I live (one of the most productive regions of Europe) strive to do well. They work hard. They might surprise with their different personal styles, a bit different from what we were accustomed to, but I never noticed any involvement in those episodes of unexpected violence as reported in the media. Last edited by beppe; 09-24-2010 at 07:31 PM. |
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Today I learned two —count ’em 2— new words from the last chapters of Little Women. The words are “hobbledehoy” and quadroon. The former is by chance dictionary.com's word of the day.
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If I do not find anything useful there, i would have to follow the names of his European friends. My impression is that this kind of differential sociological analysis is well beyond the scopes of this people, admirable as they are. We might apply for a grant from some of the Agencies and go on a trip to the Hawaii to gather evidence on the field. Do you know some influential Viking? I am sure that our record of MR posting will do a good showing in the curricula for the grant application. Last edited by beppe; 09-25-2010 at 06:21 AM. |
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09-25-2010, 06:51 AM | #51 |
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That is always the problem when discussing a book that only one of the participants in the discussion have read
It's weekend though - don't make too hard efforts on my account to look it up But that field study does look like a good idea. As long as it's somewhere it can be conducted in the shade |
09-25-2010, 07:19 AM | #52 | |
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would a bar/restaurant on a beach from sunset on be a suitable place for head quarters? with facilities for dancing? I mean just in case one needs to unwind from the tensions of intensive interviewing of the locals, data editing and pre-processing. How much clerical help do you think you need? We might need an hydroplane to move around. Or something like this, slower but with room to work while traveling. Last edited by beppe; 09-25-2010 at 03:09 PM. |
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09-25-2010, 07:01 PM | #53 | |
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(Note: I'm not saying the UK system is bad (*), although there are clearly areas for improvement. But as a recent example I managed to shock a Swedish colleague by saying I went to an all-girls school!) (* And I'm not just saying that to pacify any UK educators here, or any of my colleagues who may be here ) |
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Am, i think this method could fail if they were presented the german system they d'be far too busy surpressing laugh burstouts to admit anything
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Well, I find that in the US the educational system is very laughable. Promoting kids to the next grade level, even if they cannot read. Or the local school board promoting a religious belief as if it were science.
In the past 5 years I have seen the amount of misspelled words increase. Some of it from Officers in the U.S. military. Grammar errors that make what ever someone was trying to tell me, unreadable. Some of it from supervisors and managers. ( Of course, any time someone complains about such things, they have to proof read their own material. I have corrected 7 misspellled words before clicking on submit.) 8 words. Last edited by Joebill; 09-26-2010 at 09:54 AM. Reason: typo |
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The first is "social promotion", grounded in the concept that flunking a failing student and forcing them to repeat the courses causes psychological damage, and it's better to promote them with their age mates regardless. The end result is a generation of semi-literates who can just about read and write. Couple that with an ideal that every kid should go to college, and you get college graduates with less knowledge and skills than high school students of a previous generation, and degrees that are meaningless in the workplace, because employers rapidly learn which schools maintain any sort of meaningful standards and likely just ignore employment applications from folks claiming degrees from schools that don't. The second is that local communities have a fair bit of influence and control over what gets taught, so the curriculum winds up being what is politically acceptable in any particular area. If the area has a heavy Fundamentalist population, "evolution" becomes a dirty word. (I gained grudging respect for a Fundamentalist commentator locally some years back because he was against efforts to do things like ban the writings of Charles Darwin. He felt (correctly) that you couldn't meaningfully argue against someone if you didn't know what he actually said, and advised other Fundamentalists to read Darwin, and refute what Darwin said, not what someone else claimed Darwin said.) And thinking about it, there's a third hobble: US society recognizes and glorifies some differences between students - talented athletes and performers get lauded. We shy away from the idea that some students are simply brighter and learn faster than others, and tend towards a curriculum aimed at the lowest common denominator, so the bright kids are often denied the ability to realize their potential. ______ Dennis |
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I've seen some movements lately suggesting all girls schools as an aid to their education, by removing competition with boys as a factor in their learning. (A fair number of girls at the age of starting to think seriously about future husbands and children will be reluctant to excel against the local male talent pool, even if they are better than the guys at various things. And especially if they are better... ) ______ Dennis |
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Perhaps I'm interpreting the question "what did I learn from fiction that I hadn't expected" more broadly than most, but I think I learn something new from every book I read - even if it's just a few facts about geography in a certain place or a situation in human relations.
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A reason for gender segregation is schools that I have seen before is that boys and girls don't develop intellectually at the same rate and that current school curriculums - especially in mathematics - favour boys (in the early years boys apparently have a slightly slower learning rate. |
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