02-14-2023, 06:50 PM | #46 |
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02-14-2023, 06:59 PM | #47 | |
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Actually, stated original intent, per the OP:
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And yet you deleted a very important part of the post:
In any case, no need to moderate from the sidelines. Just report a post and let the mods handle it. Again, Guidelines; read them. Quote:
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02-14-2023, 08:47 PM | #49 |
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I find it odd the a small class of intellectual property (creators) have protections that extend waaay past their life.
As someone that spent most of my life in High Tech, we had many a long night, working a weekend, away from family, to meet a product deadline. Authors face deadlines. Coders face deadlines. Ad creators face deadlines. Engineers face deadlines. All these folk create. Why should a small group get paid long past the time on the job? |
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02-15-2023, 12:12 AM | #52 | |
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02-15-2023, 02:27 AM | #53 |
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I mostly read PD books or books available from my library. On the rare occasion I want something else I'm not going to buy an e-book. Why? They are overpriced, have DRM, are watermarked ("so we know if you have shared it illegally"), etc. So I should pay to be treated like a criminal when the pirates are offering a good service and treating me like a human being? No, thank you.
Until these practices change I see it almost as my moral duty to pirate. "Vote with your dollar", yes, that's what I'm doing. If the author offers direct payment to them at a reasonable price at their website, I'm opting for that. See Doctorow et al. I'm happy to support authors I like when treated with respect and given the benefit of the doubt. |
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I once watched an interesting libertarian debate about copyright and patents, and the pro side (that we should abolish them) contended that the system is so corrupt that we have a moral duty to defy it by pirating everything possible. The real kicker was that he was a patent lawyer. I guess spending his professional life rolling around in the muck gave him a distaste for it. Last edited by issybird; 02-15-2023 at 06:42 AM. Reason: No changes. |
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This a perfect example of "Advocating Piracy" vs "Discussing Piracy." Your post is the former. And it runs afoul of the rules of this forum. While I thank you for providing such a clear example of advocacy to those who may have trouble making the distinction, you may consider this your only warning on the subject. Post something like it again and you will be banned from Mobileread. |
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Moderator Notice To be clear: the conversation about piracy may continue. It's only the "I'm morally obligated to pirate ebooks because they're too expensive (and ebooks are just too darn difficult to buy and/or read)" tripe that's going to get blasted every time. It's quite simple: do not post to this site that you're pirating ebooks, or have pirated them (either overtly or in any kind of "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" manner), or post links to pirate sites--let alone try to pretend you're somehow justified in doing so--and you have nothing to worry about. Carry on. Last edited by DiapDealer; 02-15-2023 at 09:51 AM. |
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Oh, sure, we can discuss freely about privacy. But only if we're neutral or negative, since any positive comment would surely be construed as advocacy? That doesn't seem like a fair exchange of ideas to me. Nor do I see myself as advocating or damning piracy by stating what my moral obligation is. I don't necessarily share moral values with others or require of them to share mine or act according to them. But I'm sure that's not an interesting distinction to you, so I shan't bore you further. I'll leave this piracy conversation to those interested in the pure abstract or condemnation aspect of it. Feel free to ban me to all seven hells if this post can also be construed as "commenting on moderating policy" or any some such. You obviously are not very keen on giving the benefit of the doubt either, if you are that trigger happy. |
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02-15-2023, 10:44 AM | #58 | |
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As for the article, Ars Technica is a highly respected news site owned by major magazine publisher Condé Nast. I thought the article interesting and the news important. We don’t tolerate advocacy of piracy at MobileRead, but that doesn’t mean we don’t think it exists. Again, not a difficult distinction. As the OP, I’d like to see an end to the meta comments although people are free to go where the topic takes them otherwise. |
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02-15-2023, 10:57 AM | #59 |
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Great. If you're not capable of understanding that it's impossible to attempt to justify ones own acts of piracy without advocating piracy, then it's probably best you leave the conversation to others.
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02-15-2023, 11:04 AM | #60 |
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I'm not sure where that leaved us. The "strike" against Z-Library was merely a pyrrhus win that actually left them more resilient and in a better position than before. And even if they were to go away, there are hundreds of similar places that will take over.
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