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I also really love The Road which was also mentioned here. It is probably in my wife's top 25 of all time. |
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I never really _got_ the fuss about Hemingway. I'm going to try The Sun also Rises. I like the subject--the lost (i.e. dissipated?) American generation in Paris in the 20s. I skimmed it so far. The prose is simple and effective, but special? Nope. What looked interesting were the dissipated and bohemian character getting sloshed.
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Yeah, Lolita. I don't get it. They say the prose is amazing. Seemed nothing special to me. Perhaps I should re-read it. Naked Lunch was...meh, weird. Junkie is better (i.e. not total crud). |
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02-08-2022, 02:29 AM | #50 |
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How about "Eunoia" by Christian Bök? The book won the Griffin prize in 2002, and was a hit among the literary crowd. It is an "anthology of univocalics", having whole chapters with only one of the vowels appearing in every word. Apparently you are supposed to read it out loud for full enjoyment. I like poetry and thought it sounded like fun, but I couldn't get any momentum when trying to read it. I don't want to believe that all the big hitters who praised it are poseurs, but the seed of doubt is definitely planted in my mind.
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02-08-2022, 03:09 AM | #51 |
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I haven't read any book which fits the criteria -- plenty of books I didn't like, but none that I'd consider so universally bad that I can't imagine others enjoying them.
I read Hamsun's "Victoria" in school and hated it because the protagonist is so whiny and annoying, and tried and gave up "Hunger" for the same reason. But I've heard others describing "Hunger" as hilarious, and have no problems seeing that it can be for someone who doesn't nope out at the first cringeworthy dialogue about the carpet. There are other lauded books I've tried and abandoned because they just didn't grip me -- Marquez' "A Hundred Years of Solitude" and Smith's "White Teeth" spring to mind -- but I could see there was stuff there to enjoy, even if those books weren't for me. Other people have such weird tastes as shown in this thread, so I'm willing to believe them sincerely enjoying pretty much anything! |
02-08-2022, 08:10 AM | #52 |
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I think Moby Dick is the big one for me. It's the one I have the most trouble understanding how anyone else could possibly have enjoyed it. Only the book's reputation as a classic had me force myself through to the end. There were a handful of excellent paragraphs to be found (including the first), but it was like panning for gold: lots of mud and very little shine. If ever a book was made to be summarised by Reader's Digest, this was it.
Quite a few books in my log that get a score of 1 (Waste of Space) while getting 5 stars from others. It's a vast chasm of difference but usually I can see something that others might have found appealing or redeeming, even if I did not. So there's is usually a faint glimmer of understanding. I have more trouble the other way. If I give a book 5 then I will forever wonder how someone else might give it a 1. 3 would account for different tastes, 2 if the person found the book truly annoying, but 1? And then I remind myself that other people not only have different taste, they also use different scoring rules. |
02-08-2022, 10:14 AM | #53 |
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Anything by James Joyce. Mostly unreadable. A Literature professor and English teacher, that both died in 2021, also endorse this view.
Look him up. His exile was self imposed. Some books so experimental as to be unreadable (I couldn't finish any of the 4) and in 27 years of publishing had 3 novels and one collection of short stories. He vanity published one of the novels. In one 17 year period he only wrote some poetry. The most over-rated Irish writer ever. Loads of far better dead and living Irish Authors. |
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02-08-2022, 11:58 AM | #56 |
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Dickens Great Expectations was one for me. I tried to read this in high school I had read a few other Dickens novels so I'm not sure what made this one difficult for me but it was a DNF.
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02-08-2022, 12:47 PM | #58 |
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I bounced right off Don Quixote. I just couldn't face a whole lengthy book of that.
I can battle through a difficult and/or boring book as long as it's short. Dickens is too verbose by far. I'm not sure I trust anyone who claims to enjoy it. Maybe also Thackeray. Those serialized books end up far too long. And might I suggest, despite the fact that length is definitely not a problem here (in fact, maybe too short?): all poetry. |
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I really can't seem to enjoy reading anything much older than mid-twentieth century. The language and style is just not relatable. I use George Orwell as a benchmark for no other reason than I remember enjoying "Animal Farm" and "1984" in school, but never enjoying any "classic" from any time much before.
HOWEVER, I truly enjoyed Frank Muller's audio book performance of "Moby Dick," and I enjoyed that Leonardo DiCaprio "Romeo+Juliet" movie, which is pretty much word-for-word Shakespeare, but in a modern setting. It was the first time I felt I understood the play. So I guess I might like a lot of the classic stories if I didn't actually have to read them. I guess that's the root of the "I'll wait for the movie" cliche.... Last edited by ApK; 02-09-2022 at 02:45 PM. |
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I've made it a point to see several Shakespeare plays, live or recorded. As you watch it you kind of fall into the language and the performance of the actor helps. But trying to read it on paper is a different thing. Even with the assist of something like No Fear Shakespeare. I did read through the script for Henrik Ibsen's A Doll's House and it was a compelling and surprisingly modern read. |
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