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[TheSmitty]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

That to me is a drawback especially if I want to know if I can fish the chapter before stopping reading.

Agreed, kobo has that and wish kindle did. It is a small problem given that with kinde you can hit the button on the bottom to see a 9 page grid of where you are currently. That is nice and something I wish kobo had...

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by TheSmitty

Agreed, kobo has that and wish kindle did. It is a small problem given that with kinde you can hit the button on the bottom to see a 9 page grid of where you are currently. That is nice and something I wish kobo had...

Does that grid view now work for non-KFX books?

[TheSmitty]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Does that grid view now work for non-KFX books?

I was not aware that it didn't. Then again, how do I know if a book is non-KFX? I do have a book, "The Book Thief", that is on my kindle that I obtained from Kobo in which the grid view works.

[DNSB]

I've never seen page flip enabled or working on a MOBI/KF8 ebook. The page flip icon at the bottom of the page is always greyed out on my Paperwhite (10th gen. firmware 5.16.7) when I am reading a MOBI or KF8/azw3 ebook. Since Amazon at one time stated that Page Flip requires Enhanced Typesetting which, AFAIK, Amazon restricts to KFX, this is not exactly a surprise.

[shamanNS]

@DNSB Amazon started converting stuff you send via "Send to Kindle" or by email to KFX. And KFX PDOC is what gets delivered on Kindle devices and Kindle apps that meet some pretty arbitrary cutoff version number. Older that X gets azw3 gets instead, newer gets KFX.

And yeah, page flip functionality is still KFX only.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by shamanNS

@DNSB Amazon started converting stuff you send via "Send to Kindle" or by email to KFX. And KFX PDOC is what gets delivered on Kindle devices and Kindle apps that meet some pretty arbitrary cutoff version number. Older that X gets azw3 gets instead, newer gets KFX.

Relevance? Did I mention Send to Kindle in any flavour in my responses to @TheSmitty?

Originally Posted by shamanNS

And yeah, page flip functionality is still KFX only.

And that and only that is what I was pointing out.

[shamanNS]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Relevance? Did I mention Send to Kindle in any flavour in my responses to @TheSmitty?



And that and only that is what I was pointing out.

I was responding to to your comment and offered and explanation how @TheSmitty probably got from "book from Kobo" to having page flip on Kindle for that book.

As far as I knew you are primarily a Kobo user so I wasn't sure if you even were aware of KFX for PDOCs being a thing now.

[jackm8]

Originally Posted by TheSmitty

I was not aware that it didn't. Then again, how do I know if a book is non-KFX? I do have a book, "The Book Thief", that is on my kindle that I obtained from Kobo in which the grid view works.

Connect your Kindle to your computer and browse to it's 'Documents' folder. It should be there. It probably is kfx. If it originated on Kobo, then it was in epub format, and Kindle doesn't really support epub format. When you send it to Kindle, it just converts epub into kfx.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by shamanNS

I was responding to to your comment and offered and explanation how @TheSmitty probably got from "book from Kobo" to having page flip on Kindle for that book.

As far as I knew you are primarily a Kobo user so I wasn't sure if you even were aware of KFX for PDOCs being a thing now.

I am aware of quite a bit about Kindle formats and the oddities of Send to Kindle. One of my sidelines for a few years now has been helping some authors with being able to publish their books on KDP without running into problems since there is nothing quite like having your book pulled due to multiple errors to ruin your day. Well, perhaps having Amazon screw up your pre-orders just prior to release day...

That sideline is why I own a Paperwhite to allow me to test on an Amazon eInk reader as well as several apps. When you own the massive majority of the ebook market that Amazon does, studying the elephant is pretty much a necessity.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Does that grid view now work for non-KFX books?

No. You only get 1 page preview.

Note that all recently published books employ a KFX container, including the fixed layout formats, and they all support grid/Page Flip. An exception is Print Replica on Scribe.

Anything you Send to Kindle in ePub, Word, or PDF format will be put into KFX container except for PDF on non-Scribe Kindles, which still get PDF.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by DNSB

That sideline is why I own a Paperwhite to allow me to test on an Amazon eInk reader as well as several apps. When you own the massive majority of the ebook market that Amazon does, studying the elephant is pretty much a necessity.

Yes, anyone that's involved in ebook production needs an eink Kindle, even if they do all their reading and proofing on a Kobo.

[TheSmitty]

Originally Posted by jackm8

Connect your Kindle to your computer and browse to it's 'Documents' folder. It should be there. It probably is kfx. If it originated on Kobo, then it was in epub format, and Kindle doesn't really support epub format. When you send it to Kindle, it just converts epub into kfx.

Yes, you are correct.

[BionicGecko]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Yes, anyone that's involved in ebook production needs an eink Kindle, even if they do all their reading and proofing on a Kobo.

I’m curious, isn’t the Kindle Previewer PC app sufficient for this? Granted, I haven’t used it much, but the few times I did the rendering was identical to what I would get on my physical Kindle.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by BionicGecko

I’m curious, isn’t the Kindle Previewer PC app sufficient for this?

No, and it's less accurate than it used to be. Also not on Linux. I have it on a Win 10 VM and a spare Win 10 laptop, but I'm never going to have Win11.
I have three Kindle models and kindle app on Android (eink & LCD 8 and also 13).

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by BionicGecko

I’m curious, isn’t the Kindle Previewer PC app sufficient for this? Granted, I haven’t used it much, but the few times I did the rendering was identical to what I would get on my physical Kindle.

The old Kindle Previewer used to have the capability to display an ebook as if it was being displayed on a specific model of Kindle. That capability is long gone and the only selections are generic (tablet, phone, Kindle E-reader).