e-Book Requests and Begging (Public Domain Books Only!) - Page 38

Doitsu · 02-02-2013, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Araucaria

But I'm looking for Mr Perrin and Mr Traill, first published in 1911 (so public domain even in the US) - does anyone know whether there's any version available (for free) anywhere? If there's a PDF out there I'd be happy to have a go at producing a reasonable epub/mobi version.

archive.org has .pdf and raw OCR .txt files.

Jellby · 02-02-2013, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BookCat

Sorry H, was under the mistaken impression that all Wodehouse was in public domain.

Only works published before 1923 are public domain in the US.

Since Mr. Wodehouse died in 1975, his works (all of them) will be public domain in most "western" countries in 1946 2046 (life+70), or in 1926 2026 in Canada (life+50). Until then, not a single one is public domain here.

HarryT · 02-02-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

Only works published before 1923 are public domain in the US.

Since Mr. Wodehouse died in 1975, his works (all of them) will be public domain in most "western" countries in 1946 (life+70), or in 1926 in Canada (life+50). Until then, not a single one is public domain here.

To clarify, that is 2046 and 2026

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All US works published prior to 1923 are also in the public domain in the UK, due to the "rule of the shorter term", but that only applies to works originally published in the US, hence the pre-1923 Wodehouse works which are in the public domain in the US, are still protected by copyright in the UK.

Araucaria · 02-02-2013, 06:38 AM

Harry - just so I understand .... you are saying that Wodehouse books published before 1923 are still in copyright in the UK? And shouldn't be downloaded from PG (etc) by people in the UK?

HarryT · 02-02-2013, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Araucaria

Harry - just so I understand .... you are saying that Wodehouse books published before 1923 are still in copyright in the UK? And shouldn't be downloaded from PG (etc) by people in the UK?

Yes, that's correct. You certainly can't assume that, simply because something is in the public domain in the US, it's also in the public domain in the UK (and vice versa, of course).

All works originally published in the US prior to 1923 are also in the UK public domain, but that doesn't apply to works originally published elsewhere.

Jellby · 02-02-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

To clarify, that is 2046 and 2026

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Exactly

Somehow I still live in the 20th century.

GeoffC · 02-02-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

Exactly

Somehow I still live in the 20th century.

It was that good !

BookCat · 02-03-2013, 02:05 AM

I don't wish to start a debate about copyright, but I do find it crazy that something published as long ago as 1915 isn't in the public domain.
There's also something very morbid about checking an author's death and hoping that they lived a short life so that their works are out of copyright. I find myself thinking "Oh d*m*!" if an author hasn't died early enough. Gruesome.

HarryT · 02-05-2013, 10:34 AM

Mr Wodehouse wrote this book when he was a young man, and then lived to be a very old man. Hard to blame him for that

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It's not as if you can't buy it: eg Amazon UK have it here. Isn't this really just a case of wanting something for nothing?

BookCat · 02-07-2013, 09:04 AM

Harry, I did take a look at Amazon earlier in the discussion re Wodehouse, and I was disgusted at the price they were asking for a book which should, imho, be in the public domain. I would have paid £2.50 or so, but £5.22 is just too much.

But this isn't the right place to discuss the pricing of books. Just pointing out that I'm not expecting something for nothing, but at a reasonable cost.

HarryT · 02-07-2013, 09:09 AM

Perhaps get it from the library?

Araucaria · 02-08-2013, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BookCat

Harry, I did take a look at Amazon earlier in the discussion re Wodehouse, and I was disgusted at the price they were asking for a book which should, imho, be in the public domain. I would have paid £2.50 or so, but £5.22 is just too much.

But this isn't the right place to discuss the pricing of books. Just pointing out that I'm not expecting something for nothing, but at a reasonable cost.

Abebooks.com has several secondhand copies of Something Fresh in real book form at very reasonable prices (considerably less than Amazon).

BookCat · 02-08-2013, 06:12 AM

Thanks I'll take a look at that. I'll check out some charity shops etc for cheap copies of the blandings novels. Thanks.

Just checked Abebooks. It's in US! The shipping would cost a fortune.

HarryT · 02-08-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BookCat

Thanks I'll take a look at that. I'll check out some charity shops etc for cheap copies of the blandings novels. Thanks.

Just checked Abebooks. It's in US! The shipping would cost a fortune.

Try "www.abebooks.co.uk" - that's the British site. Although both do show international sales, the "co.uk" site lists British ones first.

A quick search shows a couple of UK copies at 64p (plus postage).

JSWolf · 02-09-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Araucaria

Abebooks.com has several secondhand copies of Something Fresh in real book form at very reasonable prices (considerably less than Amazon).

I didn't think Abebooks was allow to sell used eBooks.

02-05-2013, 10:34 AM	#564
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Mr Wodehouse wrote this book when he was a young man, and then lived to be a very old man. Hard to blame him for that . It's not as if you can't buy it: eg Amazon UK have it here. Isn't this really just a case of wanting something for nothing? Last edited by HarryT; 02-05-2013 at 10:37 AM.

02-08-2013, 06:12 AM	#568
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	Thanks I'll take a look at that. I'll check out some charity shops etc for cheap copies of the blandings novels. Thanks. Just checked Abebooks. It's in US! The shipping would cost a fortune. Last edited by BookCat; 02-08-2013 at 06:15 AM.

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BookCat C L J Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	I don't wish to start a debate about copyright, but I do find it crazy that something published as long ago as 1915 isn't in the public domain. There's also something very morbid about checking an author's death and hoping that they lived a short life so that their works are out of copyright. I find myself thinking "Oh dm!" if an author hasn't died early enough. Gruesome.

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BookCat C L J Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	Harry, I did take a look at Amazon earlier in the discussion re Wodehouse, and I was disgusted at the price they were asking for a book which should, imho, be in the public domain. I would have paid £2.50 or so, but £5.22 is just too much. But this isn't the right place to discuss the pricing of books. Just pointing out that I'm not expecting something for nothing, but at a reasonable cost.

02-07-2013, 09:09 AM	#566
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Perhaps get it from the library?

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