08-13-2008, 12:24 PM | #541 | |
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I said I downloaded a book not legally available without reading it (I still have it in my HDD, though). Am I doing wrong? Did I steal something? From whom? Last edited by Format C:; 08-13-2008 at 12:38 PM. |
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08-13-2008, 12:36 PM | #543 | |
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Basically, readers pay a monthly fee, proportional to their income. A sort of Publisher Guild And Writers Society collects it and use the money to produce books and to pay writers. Readers get books for free from known servers. Shoppers and printers got books from that same source, and pay an extra fee for each hardcopy they make. Buyers pay a cover price for hardcopies (it's the extra amount nedeed for pay everyone who worked to that copy, from the cover designer to the guy who cleans the shop at night). Readers give a feedback on what they read. Writers get paid periodically according to the number of copies sold / printed / downloaded and the feedback received, until a maximum (say 1.250.000$/year) Side effect: writers got paid most for what is read, not for what is downloaded. As of now, if a book sells millions of copies its author gets rich even if nobody reads it. And that's definitely unfair. Intellectual Property and copyright (which lasts a fixed amount of time from first publication or life +1 year, you choose) belongs to the writer and not to some greedy corporation. The question is: why a writer who get to the maximum will write some more? My answer is: please, stop writing. If the only incentive for a writer is money, I can live without her/him. I think that it's more likely for a Rowling to go there, rather than for a Toni Morrison. And if we end up with less HP and more Nobel Prize novels (paid with the exceeding from HP), I hardly call it a loss. The other question is: if you can have a legal multiformat e-book without paying for it, why do you need to pirate it? And better, if you scanned and OCR'd a book, provided you did a good job, you can put it in the legal circuit and get a discount on your fee. You're no longer a pirate, your good job (and pirate's job is usually good) is rewarded, and writers got paid. Of course in the real world it won't work. For two reasons: now publisher decide what readers read. They do it with commercials and by choosing what to print and when. They won't give up on that kind of power. Greedy writers/publishers/corporations won't agree on a maximum earning. Greedy pirate readers won't agree on a minimum fixed payment. Basically, everybody just want it all. And now. So in the end, it's the same old story: the strongest rule. And he's always right. |
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08-13-2008, 12:51 PM | #544 | |
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Are you doing "wrong"? That's for you to decide. Are you breaking the law? Yes - at least where I live you are. There are countries where you wouldn't be. You (presumably) know what the law is where you live. |
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My point was that people who want to rail on about the broken system and how they don't think they should pay x for a book might want to keep in mind that by doing so, they may be denying income to a group of people who really don't have a lot to spare already. But I'm not so much arguing with the overall effect as with the principle that just because one doesn't personally like capitalism, one is entitled to act as though a socialist system not only would be better, but already exists. And the truly ironic part is that the author I'm thinking of most in this regard is, in fact, a socialist. Quote:
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Hm. Try to be the voice of reason? Help with the derailment/provocation?
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On a side note: the long-term effects of preferring the defense budget over, say, public education for a couple of generations are going to hurt. A lot. But hey, keep 'em stupid and keep 'em scared and you can do what you want, and never run out of cannon fodder as a bonus, right? Did anyone else have a hearty laugh when they saw Bush (mr. God told me to go to war) condemn Russia for invading a foreign country? Last edited by acidzebra; 08-14-2008 at 01:49 AM. |
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08-14-2008, 04:24 AM | #553 | |
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Or it's more likely fair to pay an author for accessing his content, rather than just the publisher's container? I downloaded a file, I still have it on my HD and nobody has ever read a single word from it. What am I stealing? I can spend 4 years in jail for it... |
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When you download things you are not going to read, first you are doing something wrong. Its roughly the same as e.g. woman -- to be sexiest -- who buy clothes they never gonna wear. Second how should anyone prove if you are going to read it or not. Its like not wanting to pay in the cinema for a horror movie, because you say well will always close my eyes and hold my hands on my ears eitherway... Last edited by axel77; 08-14-2008 at 04:36 AM. |
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