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And I, equally, have no interest in your opinion of me. So, whatever facile trap you thought you were setting, I will decline to give you the satisfaction. |
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Clever, but somehow Microsoft has managed to pursue a radically different vision of what a smartphone should be. You should hear Marko Ahtisaari talk about the purity of the design language of the Lumia and Win 8.
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By extension that would also mean that it hasn't put clear water between itself and its competition when attracting first time smartphone buyers. It will be interesting to see if this recaptures market share for Apple, or whether the (no doubt) massive sales of the phone are largely to existing iPhone users. Graham |
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I predict that the iPhone 5 will steal market share from other mobile OSes in the United States, and probably in Canada and Europe as well. Likely not in the rest of the world due to simple economics. |
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Initial sales of the iPhone 5 will be upgrades. After that, we'll just have to wait and see.
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New customers have been given that choice of ecosystem for the last couple of years, and have been choosing Android in spite of it. There's been a dip in Apple market share as buyers wait for the iPhone 5, but I'll hazard a guess that it is existing iPhone owners who have been waiting to upgrade who have caused that slowdown. I doubt that a significant number of new smartphone buyers have decided to hold off for most of this year waiting for the iPhone 5. They'd just have gone for the existing iPhone. EDIT: Just realised there's a problem in my logic there, as existing users holding off would affect sales but not overall market share. But it's getting late I'm too tired to think it through! Graham Last edited by Graham; 09-14-2012 at 05:13 PM. |
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The trend is clear, Android up. And the same applies all over the world, with the exception of US.
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However, it sounds like you're assuming that everyone without an iPhone is using Android. In fact, less than half the population of the US owns a smartphone (source). I think those are the people Apple is really going after. Moreover, if you look at sales figures for Verizon and AT&T, iPhones represent almost three quarters of all models sold. It is far and away the most popular device in the country. The only reason it can look otherwise is that its critics like to compare iOS (3 phones) to all of Android (200+ phones). Hardly a relevant comparison. Apple is destroying every one of its competitors at the moment. |
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I was questioning whether the iPhone 5 was sufficiently compelling to change that as there really aren't significant improvements to the ecosystem with this release compared to features that the competing giants of Amazon and Google are already offering. Graham |
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