09-15-2009, 04:30 PM | #31 |
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09-15-2009, 04:35 PM | #32 |
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Maybe we should open a poll ...
"What's more distracting to you: eInk page flashing or pBook page turning?" |
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09-15-2009, 04:43 PM | #33 |
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Paper page turning is less distracting as people have been doing it their whole lives and are used to it.
And it's not as visually jarring as the flash IMO. |
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09-15-2009, 04:50 PM | #35 |
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09-15-2009, 05:30 PM | #36 |
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The first time I saw eInk in action was about six weeks ago when I saw a YouTube video of the new txtr. I didn't notice the flash.
Two weeks later I was tipped to come here, and I read many posts about the flash. So I went back to YouTube and saw the txtr video again, and noticed for the first time the flash that many posters had described. If you guys hadn't pointed it out, I think that I would be blissfully ignorant! |
09-15-2009, 05:52 PM | #37 |
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No way it takes 1-2 seconds. I did some empirical observations before posting the claim and it is near instantaneous for a pocket book. Notice that you put your hands in the correct position for turning before reaching the end of the page.
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09-15-2009, 10:08 PM | #38 | |
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I don't see how the two can compare. One gives you instant visual and tactile response while requiring more muscle movement, while the other requires less physical effort and is significantly slower. If I lose my arms and need to use my chin to turn pages, the ebook reader is much less of a workout. |
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09-15-2009, 10:39 PM | #40 | |
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Honestly, neither page turns or the flash bothers me. E-readers just suck for something you need to flip through like a text book, scholarly article, technical manual etc. since all those delays add up when flipping through a bunch of pages or dealing with the slow loading table of contents etc. to jump around. For regular reading? The page flash doesn't bother me, I just hit it when I'm half through the last line. |
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Actually having to remember to push a button is more distracting than turning a page, then when I get this blank-all black-blank-letters fading in for a half a second or so; well, it's distracting! I have both a Sony PRS-505 and a jetBook. The jetBook does none of that, and turns the page in one or two hundred milliseconds, the Sony does all of that and turns the page in five to seven hundred milliseconds. The jetBook's 5" screen is at least as easy for my ancient eyeballs to read in normal lighting as the Sony's 6" screen (I think a little easier, but that's a subjective call). The only time I've even turned the Sony on since getting the jetBook has been to compare the screens. If the truth be known, I read my Nokia N800 more than anything, but that's because it fits in my pocket better and I find it more convenient to carry around. When I'm at home I read the jetBook, and since the Nokia and the jetBook both have text search capability it's easy to keep them in sync. The Sony does not have text search, and the page numbering is not consistent so keeping them in sync is a hassle. Oh yeah, the Nokia doesn't do the flashy thing either! |
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But to each their own. Everyone should read on what works for them and what doesn't distract them. |
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09-15-2009, 11:09 PM | #43 |
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after a while you don't even notice it anymore. Of course, current e-readers suck for flipping through documents --- but for those I use my computer, anyway. For straight forward reading they are pretty good now, except for PDF with pictures or for those people who "must" have full text justification.
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Actually, one of the reasons turning a paper page might be not so distracting is because you don't stare at the turning page, but somehow give a rest to your eyes and focus them on something else than the page (even if it's on your hand). A quick solution is close your eyes or look to somewhere else when the page flashes on an ebook reader. Anyway, the Cybook lets you disable the flashing. Leaving aside the fact that, indeed, it's possible to turn a paper page almost instantaneously, but I don't usually do that (much less when reading on my side in bed, where I have to change the balance of the book at every page change). |
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Proper text-based PDFs for people who "must" have books that don't look like they're made by grade-schoolers have no discernable delay between page-turns when compared with any of the reflow formats. - Ahi |
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