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Old 08-02-2024, 12:07 PM   #31
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Sorry to say but that IS personal preference. You cannot tell me that your method of August 8 makes more sense than 8 August.
You guys with that silly date variation are definitely in the minority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ats_by_country

And what's with the bs about left -v- right side driving. I am pretty sure what you are stating is some form of silly prejudice.
In this thread, it's being said that DD/MM/YYYY is better then MM/DD/YYYY because more countries use it.

In that case, more countries drive on the right. So we'll get rid of driving on the left for the same reason.
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So we no longer refer to the American Independence day as the Fourth of July?
We don't refer to Christmas as 25th of December. It's December 25th. 4th of July is a mistake.
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Old 08-02-2024, 12:29 PM   #33
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Wouldn't it be a lovely if all standards used by an extreme minority of the planet could simply be deemed unworthy and eliminated? It's not as if surgeries are being missed because no one could figure out the local date format. Viva la Difference, I say.

Looking forward to cervezas next Mayo Cinco.
No, I agree. Regional variations are fine. The issue is someone suggesting their way is the only "correct" way.
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No, I agree. Regional variations are fine. The issue is someone suggesting their way is the only "correct" way.
https://xkcd.com/927/
But the problem comes when someone without a listed location puts up a date such as 08/09/2023. Is that August 9 or September 8?
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Old 08-02-2024, 12:55 PM   #35
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In that case, more countries drive on the right. So we'll get rid of driving on the left for the same reason.
Oddly Hitler decided that in European countries he occupied and the USA did it on one Japanese Island.

The right vs left is a bogus argument.

The point isn't that everyone in USA should use the Western Europe format (some countries don't even use the Gregorian system), but that people from the less than 5% world population USA shouldn't insist their way is correct. It's an alternate way, that works locally. Internationally (a global audience) the ISO format is best, if using a Gregorian date at all.

Perhaps 10,000 should be added (approx first villages or towns rather than the wrong birth date of a famous Jewish guy), so today is 12024-08-02. There are maybe 7 or 8 calendar systems apart from the many ways of writing Gregorian dates, and a three letter month abbreviation isn't universal, nor even the name of the month.
In Ireland the modern months are:
Eanáir – January
Feabhra – February (Old Irish Fisabh)
Márta – March (Old Irish Mághta)
Aibreáin – April
Bealtaine – May
Meitheamh – June
Iúil – July
Lúnasa – August (Old Irish Lughnasadh)
Meán Fómhair – September (=middle of harvest)
Deireadh Fómhair – October (=end of harvest)
Samhain – November
Nollaig – December (=Christmas, I forget the old Irish)

The Irish ones are still in everyday use, even officially.

Days of week (English is from Norse and Roman) and month names even in Gregorian using countries do vary.

Local or national things are fine, but you can't insist they are "correct" in a Global or International sense.
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Oddly Hitler decided that in European countries he occupied and the USA did it on one Japanese Island.

The right vs left is a bogus argument.

The point isn't that everyone in USA should use the Western Europe format (some countries don't even use the Gregorian system), but that people from the less than 5% world population USA shouldn't insist their way is correct. It's an alternate way, that works locally. Internationally (a global audience) the ISO format is best, if using a Gregorian date at all.

Perhaps 10,000 should be added (approx first villages or towns rather than the wrong birth date of a famous Jewish guy), so today is 12024-08-02. There are maybe 7 or 8 calendar systems apart from the many ways of writing Gregorian dates, and a three letter month abbreviation isn't universal, nor even the name of the month.
In Ireland the modern months are:
Eanáir – January
Feabhra – February (Old Irish Fisabh)
Márta – March (Old Irish Mághta)
Aibreáin – April
Bealtaine – May
Meitheamh – June
Iúil – July
Lúnasa – August (Old Irish Lughnasadh)
Meán Fómhair – September (=middle of harvest)
Deireadh Fómhair – October (=end of harvest)
Samhain – November
Nollaig – December (=Christmas, I forget the old Irish)

The Irish ones are still in everyday use, even officially.

Days of week (English is from Norse and Roman) and month names even in Gregorian using countries do vary.

Local or national things are fine, but you can't insist they are "correct" in a Global or International sense.
The thing is, it doesn't matter if only 1 person says the US way is the better way. That's just the way it is. Look at a calendar. You have the month before the day.
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Old 08-02-2024, 04:20 PM   #37
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Look at a calendar. You have the month before the day.
Yep, I am looking at a calendar and I don't see that. I see the day before the month.

Why are you insisting that your way is the correct way?
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Yep, I am looking at a calendar and I don't see that. I see the day before the month.

Why are you insisting that your way is the correct way?
Wrong type of calendar. Look at a wall calendar.
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I don't know what type of calendar you are looking at, but none of the calendars show that. It is just a header with month and year, then boxes for days.

I suppose I am only allowed to look at American calendars as anything else would be the "wrong type of calendar"?
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I don't know what type of calendar you are looking at, but none of the calendars show that. It is just a header with month and year, then boxes for days.

I suppose I am only allowed to look at American calendars as anything else would be the "wrong type of calendar"?
Exactly, Month and then under that is the days. So for August you would read August and then 1. So it would be read as August 1.
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No, now you are just picking and choosing to fit your point.
The calendar will show Month AND Year then under that is days.
So it would actually be August 2024 1
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No, now you are just picking and choosing to fit your point.
The calendar will show Month AND Year then under that is days.
So it would actually be August 2024 1
You're still never going to be convincing that date format used in the UK is better then the date format used in the US.

The US format is closer to the ISO format then the UK format.
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And you will never be convincing that the US format is better than the format used by the rest of the world.

I'll leave it at that, and look for something more productive for my morning
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And you will never be convincing that the US format is better than the format used by the rest of the world.

I'll leave it at that, and look for something more productive for my morning
I have something for you to do. Petition for ISO date format to be used world wide.

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