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A couple more examples like this I came across while reading were "alarm-ing", "usu-ally" or "Riv-iera". Do they all seem correct to you ? Quote:
![]() I was just under the impression that Kepubs were not actually tanking into account the left and right length constraints specified in the dictionary itself. It may have been the book I was reading, tho. Maybe something around the language metadata not being correct. |
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I have the same issue with a Polish hyphenation dictionary right now. When I set left and right characters minimum limit to 3, KEBUB files somehow render 2 characters before a hyphen - should I increase the limit to 4?
I've seen mentions of symlink - what is that? Wysłane przez Tapatalka |
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Higher/lower numbers let certain rules override other rules. I recently explained Hyphenation Dictionaries in a simpler form a few months ago: Quote:
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In British English, many words hyphenate based on the root words. In 2014, I posted a few examples of American vs. British Hyphenation differences:
A great way to find valid hyphenation points is to search your word on M-W.com: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/memory "mem-o-ry" is the syllables. But you're correct with "mem-ory". In English typography, it's best to have >=3 letters after the final hyphen. ![]() If you look up "cryptography", you can see the American is "cryp-tog-ra-phy". Not all words follow the syllables though, and there are exceptions. "therapist" is a funny example... "the-rapist". Seeing that in a book would make you look twice! If you look it up, the correct hyphenation is actually "ther-a-pist". ![]() Side Note: For British English hyphenation, the Oxford Dictionary (now known as Lexico) used to have actual hyphenation points listed like Merriam-Webster... but maybe 5 or 6 years ago, they redid their website and removed it. I was in the middle of researching detailed American vs. British differences when it happened. Really makes me wish I backed that stuff up when I had the chance. Quote:
If we apply the "need to end with >=3 characters", the bad "-ly" hyphen disappears... so your "usu-ally" is correct. ![]() Now let's say you wanted to hyphenate:
same thing. The ending "-ly" is only 2 characters, so it shouldn't split there, so you'd get:
Note: In French, 2/2 characters to the Left/Right is valid. See Hyphenation.org + my descriptions way above. Quote:
So an "en" dictionary only applies to English + a "de" dictionary would only apply to German, "fr" to French, etc., etc. On Kindles, this hyphenation even goes down to the word-level. See jhowell's "Kindle hyphenation" post from 2021. I'm unsure on most other devices/apps. Quote:
Hmmm... but I'm not sure on Kobo's quirks. According to JSWolf's Post #14, KEPUB has an off-by-one bug... so you'd have to specify 3/3(???) in your dictionary. JSWolf, has this bug been fixed? Has it been reported to Kobo? Does it still apply to the latest firmware? Quote:
![]() ![]() Might want to also add Finnish. I recently promoted Kobo's openness (with Hyphenation Dictionaries) in a Reddit post. (The original poster wanted to create a two-column bilingual book... turns out he's Finnish. When I went looking for Finnish support in Kobos, I couldn't find any info.) Last edited by Tex2002ans; 12-01-2021 at 08:44 PM. |
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What a bothering problem! I'm an Italian speaker. Though hyphenation in my language is relatively simple (according to Accademia della Crusca), there are a lot of rules and exceptions.
I saw that Kobo often does bad hyphenation. For example, Italian words with double consonants should always get separated, so let's spell "ATTERRARE" (to land in english): At-ter-ra-re. So, if found at the bottom of the line, we should have: At- terrare. Kobo doesn't do this correctly. Wrong hyphenation happens though Kobo uses its default dictionary. I personally don't like hyphenation very much. Since I was little I've found it tricky and esthetically ugly, not just on a digital display. In books and hand-writed texts either. About the alignment, I dislike justification, I hate space between words and I don't find it much readable. I always move to left. If I enlarge margins just a bit and keep the text on the left, hyphenation goes at the minimum with fewer mistakes. |
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adobe-hyphenate, -webkit-hyphens, hyphens, -moz-hyphens, -epub-hyphens After that, I bulk insert the following using Modify Epub: Code:
body { -epub-hyphens: none; adobe-hyphenate: none; -webkit-hyphens: none; -moz-hyphens: none; hyphens: none} |
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I know there are custom hyphenation dictionaries that are supposed to increase the frequency of hyphenation, since Kobo doesn't do it by default very often. Is it possible to go in the other direction and create an empty hyphenation dictionary, so that hyphenation will never be used without having to edit every book? Are there instructions anywhere for how to create hyphenation dictionaries in Kobo's format?
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