Did BN change DRM scheme AGAIN?

[Aleron Ives]

Maybe B&N is doubling down on its rejection of the concept of digital ownership. You have no rights(.xml)!

[Renate]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Odd that I didn't get a rights.xml at all.

Maybe you unintentionally tried to de-DRM it, the process failed and it deleted rights.xml and encryption.xml while leaving it all encrypted. The fact that the bad file has useless compression on everything indicates something wrong. If it thought that it had decrypted the chapters then Zip compression would have been useful. Still, the images are compressed which never makes sense.

Originally Posted by GeorgeYellow

The point is that indicates a new key encryption.

Ok, but let's look at this logically.
It's possible that B&N wants to do new encryption.
Then they must either enable some option in existing software or issue new software.

[ownedbycats]

Yes, I imported into Calibre which automatically runs DeDRM.

[Renate]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Yes, I imported into Calibre which automatically runs DeDRM.

And it didn't find that XML attribute which left it confused.
So it said, "this isn't encrypted" and deleted the two XML files.

Do you still have a copy of the original file anywhere?
Could you try a standalone decoder, ineptepub.py
That doesn't actually look for the XML attribute passHash, just a 64 char encryptionKey.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

I'm seeing a DeDRM failure after re-downloading a book from the Nook app:

Attachment 208638

I'll be looking to deleting my B&N account. Useless to me now.

On the computer that has the nook Windows Store app installed, I was able to download some eBooks and they did not have the DRM removed.

I installed the latest DeDRM alpha release that computer and those two eBooks were then able to have the DRM removed. I saved the key file and was able to import it into the calibre I use most and it works to remove the DRM. So really, there's no reason not to be able to remove the DRM from B&NB ePub as long as you are using Windows 10 64-bit and have the nook Windows Store app installed.

https://github.com/noDRM/DeDRM_tools...947bf338d3ffda

That's the URL for the latest alpha release. It could someday change.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

...I installed the latest DeDRM alpha release that computer and those two eBooks were then able to have the DRM removed. I saved the key file and was able to import it into the calibre I use most and it works to remove the DRM. So really, there's no reason not to be able to remove the DRM from B&NB ePub as long as you are using Windows 10 64-bit and have the nook Windows Store app installed.

I haven't bought any new books from B&N, but the last I checked DeDRM still worked in Linux (I had to get the books via the B&N app on Windows 10, however).

I probably won't buy any more eBooks from B&N. I'm tired of their shenanigans.

[cgsmom]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

I'm seeing a DeDRM failure after re-downloading a book from the Nook app:

Attachment 208638

I'll be looking to deleting my B&N account. Useless to me now.

Yes, this is what I am getting. Back to Kobo or Amazon for purchases. Oh well. I should have known it was too good to be true.

[GeorgeYellow]

After redownloading the same titles, I find there is a right and proper 'rights.xml' that works as expected with the existing DeDRM tools.

I can only speculate that some servers were generating corrupted key material.

[Renate]

We still haven't gotten at TRUTH.
Is the whole deal that B&N (intentionally or accidentally) dropped an XML attribute and it broke some 3rd party de-DRM?
There are plenty of reasons to hate B&N but without knowing the root of it it's unfair to add this.
Does anybody have complaints that something recently changed when using stock B&N components?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cgsmom

Yes, this is what I am getting. Back to Kobo or Amazon for purchases. Oh well. I should have known it was too good to be true.

You can remove the DRM. What version of calibre are you using? If you can install the alpha of DeDRM, you can remove the DRM. The alpha version is basically 10.0.9+.

When I updated DeDRM on the computer that has the nook app, I was then able to remove the new DRM no problem. After that, I saved the new key and imported that into DeDRM on the laptop and that worked for removing B&N DRM as well. So I'm good to go.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Renate

We still haven't gotten at TRUTH.
Is the whole deal that B&N (intentionally or accidentally) dropped an XML attribute and it broke some 3rd party de-DRM?
There are plenty of reasons to hate B&N but without knowing the root of it it's unfair to add this.
Does anybody have complaints that something recently changed when using stock B&N components?

The truth is, the eBook's I downloaded do have that XML file and yes, I am able to remove the DRM. It did not break DeDRM. All you needed to do is make sure you have the latest version of DeDRM. That's what works for me.

[gforgiraffe39935]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The truth is, the eBook's I downloaded do have that XML file and yes, I am able to remove the DRM. It did not break DeDRM. All you needed to do is make sure you have the latest version of DeDRM. That's what works for me.

I experienced the same, it works as usual.

However, the Windows for NOOK application had trouble syncing my library and getting the new eBooks, so it is best to assume it they will prevent the app from connecting and downloading one's library very soon.

If I had a gift card, I would use it immediately and stop purchasing eBooks from BN. Full stop.

Encourage gift cards from Google Play or Kobo, if a gift giver insists on a gift card in lieu of something else.

It's not a lot, but I have just over 600 purchased eBooks and I don't want to jump through hoops anymore to read them on my preferred devices. I try to buy them without DRM from publishers who offer that or from Google Play.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by gforgiraffe39935

I experienced the same, it works as usual.

However, the Windows for NOOK application had trouble syncing my library and getting the new eBooks, so it is best to assume it they will prevent the app from connecting and downloading one's library very soon.

If I had a gift card, I would use it immediately and stop purchasing eBooks from BN. Full stop.

Encourage gift cards from Google Play or Kobo, if a gift giver insists on a gift card in lieu of something else.

It's not a lot, but I have just over 600 purchased eBooks and I don't want to jump through hoops anymore to read them on my preferred devices. I try to buy them without DRM from publishers who offer that or from Google Play.

I have no idea what happens with new books as I've not purchased in a while. But if I was looking to find out, I'd find a free eBook and buy that and try to download it. If it worked, I'd then go ahead and purchase.

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by Renate

And it didn't find that XML attribute which left it confused.
So it said, "this isn't encrypted" and deleted the two XML files.

Do you still have a copy of the original file anywhere?
Could you try a standalone decoder, ineptepub.py
That doesn't actually look for the XML attribute passHash, just a 64 char encryptionKey.

Unfortunately, I uninstalled the Nook app shortly after the initial failure, which deleted all the downloads from appdata.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Unfortunately, I uninstalled the Nook app shortly after the initial failure, which deleted all the downloads from appdata.

That's a shame since it still works and DRM can be removed.