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I don't think I'm entitled to unlimited 3g for paying my extra $50 but I also do not appreciate being penalized because of a smacktards on the internet. Want to punish someone? Punish them, turn off the 3g access for those units using the hack to share the 3g connection. |
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If you disable images, which I do, I wonder how much g-mailing and twp.com reading it is going to take to get to 50 MB. I'm thinking it is an awful lot. Does anyone know how likely it is to get to the 50 MB if you stick to text based web sites?
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There's an important distinction to be made here. The browser is listed as experimental, and at least to me, "experimental" means that the browser itself may not work as expected (rendering web pages incorrectly/slowly/poorly, etc, similar to a beta). It's a completely separate feature from unlimited 3G. Also, even if the "experimental" tag was applied specifically to the browsing, nowhere does it say that any sort of limit would be imposed on the browsing or that it was subject to being taken away.
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I'm not sure how it doesn't. Amazon never stated the restriction when it was sold, and while I can honestly say I'm not likely to hit a 50MB cap, it's still annoying to now have to worry about it. I didn't pay to get limited later on...
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Agreed. Do I think that unlimited lifetime global 3G for a one-time $50 fee is incredibly generous? I certainly do. But this doesn't mean that it's within Amazon's rights to restrict this advertised feature after I've paid for it. I pretty much never use the 3G but I paid extra for the feature because I figured that it might be useful at some point. I used it while traveling abroad to check my email, but this 50MB per month restriction is dismally low. |
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Regardless of anyone´s opinion of what is or is not allowed via the agreement.
I bought a device that had one level of service, now I have one that provides another. Bait and switch. Simple. Yes I would happily flay alive those who tethered their devices so foolishly as to now reduce (those of) us (unfortunate enough to now be in the ¨PUNISHMENT ZONE¨) to fifty mb of data. But since public floggings are a bit out of fashion, that´s not likely to happen; I will simply have to say MEH to those fortunate to be inside the US saying ¨But it´s not so bad, probably¨ I buy something, I expect it to be what I bought. T+C´s be damned. ; ) Last edited by twobob; 07-25-2012 at 05:54 AM. Reason: added clarity, passion and a pinch of humour |
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Where was the "bait"? Where did Amazon ever "bait" you with a promised higher level of service? Where did they promise Free unlimited global data for life? The service changed, but to a reasonable level that is fully inline with their intent, and with reasonable expectations, at the time of the original sale. It's an eReader, you can buy books on it, you can check Google and Wikipedia on it. You can still do all of that, anywhere in the world. The sense of entitlement that people have is just amazing. You paid next to nothing for the service, but expect the world, literally, in return. |
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Frankly put, punish those who take the mikey, someone shifts 5Gb? send them a mail and stick them on data rations for a year. Someone goes to 51Mb because they are stuck somewhere and the kindle is a lifeline, don´t punish them for the 5Gb guys/girls misdeeds. Also. As I understand it only the Wiki and Amazon store work for me outside the UK. Which again was a ¨surprise¨, but meh. Anyways, if I am honest, I don´t think 50Mb is the worst thing in the world. It is a tough break to be presented with an absolute limit where there was none. switch. I bought the device with unlimited 3G - as advertised in the UK, bait. For the record: This was just the only heated debate on here this morning. I am fully aware that flogging this horse of deadness has no impact other than to give me something to flap my fingers about while I wake up grumpily with tea, blumming trolling lurkers, I should go do something more constructive ![]() Last edited by twobob; 07-25-2012 at 06:29 AM. Reason: added sexual equality and roaming details |
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Even if they did promise "lifetime free 3G", how have they broken that promise? It is still 3G and it is still free.
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