02-20-2023, 09:46 AM | #31 |
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I don't agree with Pullman's let it go "out of print". With ebooks and POD nothing should go out of print in paperback or ebook. The market can't choose if it's in copyright and not available. That's censorship too.
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02-20-2023, 09:52 AM | #32 |
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I think it's insane to change the books. I have only a passing familiarity with Dahl's children's books, but the examples I saw (in a National Review article, no paywall) are completely idiotic. This is the kind of thing that undermines legitimate efforts at inclusiveness and understanding, because it makes sensitivity seem ridiculous.
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02-20-2023, 10:09 AM | #33 |
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I'm unfamiliar with author and publishers contracts, but I assumed there was some sort of time limits, or some exit clauses. I assume a lot of stuff goes out of print because the parties don't see the value of keeping it in print.
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02-20-2023, 10:28 AM | #35 |
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I'm not sure whether this belongs here or in the P&R version of the thread.
https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/st...33733808291841 Andrew |
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02-20-2023, 10:29 AM | #36 |
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No, I didn't misunderstand. POD and ebooks should mean if there is no demand and no print run, then for whatever reason, someone can buy a copy while it's still in copyright. Doing no new print run because demand is low, or you claim it is, is a form of censorship.
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02-20-2023, 10:38 AM | #38 |
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Lest anyone think this is some new trend ... I still remember when I found a first edition of an early Nancy Drew in a pile of old books and picked it up to reread. I was about 13 then (it was the mid-1970s) and I had grown up on the 1950s/60s editions of the books. The racism in the 1930s edition was completely unexpected and very shocking.
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02-20-2023, 01:54 PM | #42 |
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Whoever owns the copyright should be able to do whatever they want with it. If they want to publish a revised version that they feel better reflects their current beliefs, then no one should should try to get in the way of their freedom of expression.
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02-20-2023, 02:13 PM | #44 |
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Under the old US copyright system, Dahl’s children books would have already started coming into the public domain, at which point the original versions would be free and accessible. It’s an advantage of shorter copyright that hadn’t struck me before, that books would run out their copyright while sensibilities were relatively stable, before wholesale calls for rewriting. And in any case, people wouldn’t be limited by the secondary market if they wanted to access the original text.
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02-20-2023, 02:40 PM | #45 |
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I feel so strongly about this, I have just purchased the box set of his children's books, published in 2018. Absurd censorship. Will we have to go back to paper books in the future? I am very worried that in future, instead of amazon just mildly annoying me by changing the covers of my books, this will extend to revising editions to make them acceptable to "sensitivity readers"/thought police. Reading - and understanding - 1984 should be a prerequisite for anyone in any walk of life, but particularly for those involved in politics or media. It’s dystopian, what is happening.
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