[GUI Plugin] Kindle Collections (Update) - Page 3

ersesedi · 10-03-2014, 06:59 AM

I have read in the main post how to remove the plugin.

But how does one remove the edits made by it and restore the kindle to the previous condition?

NiLuJe · 10-03-2014, 09:00 AM

@ersesedi: Delete all collections?

Waylander · 10-06-2014, 06:04 AM

If I get rid of the old collections, and the book therein, will that delete the books from the new collections? Not sure whether this or the CM thread is the right forum, as am using PW.

NiLuJe · 10-06-2014, 07:39 AM

@Waylander: Think of the collections as simple 'tags' attached to a book. A single book can have multiple tags.

Removing those tags will in now way affect the book themselves

.

So, no, removing stuff from a collection will not actually delete said stuff, it'll just rip that tag off the file

.

Waylander · 10-06-2014, 08:18 AM

OK, but what I mean is that I have a collection called Sc-Fi/Fantasy, and if I delete that collection, and the books in that collection, will those books still be in the collections created by the collections manager?

NiLuJe · 10-06-2014, 08:22 AM

@Waylander: If said collection is not managed by the plugin, then it will be gone.

If it is managed by the plugin, it'll be recreated on the next import.

That's the whole Plugin managed vs. Kindle managed thing as explained in the first post

.

webmaven · 10-06-2014, 10:20 AM

I have a Kindle Collection being created from a tag called 'science fiction' with several hundred books that should remain after the collections are generated.

I also have a rule that says not to create a collection from a *series* if there are less than 2 books in it.

Somehow, this has started deleting the tag collection after being created, even though a similarly sized one 'fantasy' is left alone.

The only difference between the two that might be relevant is the space in the middle.

This worked well before the 2.0 release, and is still buggy in 2.5 (and the latest version of the Kindle Collections plugin. I hadn't updated the books on the device in a while, so am not sure when the problem appeared.

Here is a screenshot of the plugin setttings:

Spoiler:

Here is the relevant section of the report:

Spoiler:

Code:

Collections saved to the Kindle:

    Collection                                    Managed By  Books  Change
    ----------                                    ----------  -----  ------
    Acorna                                        Calibre     10     Replaced (from column Series)
    Age of Exploration                            Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Age of Unreason                               Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Agent Cormac                                  Calibre     5      Replaced (from column Series)
    Alex Benedict                                 Calibre     6      Replaced (from column Series)
    Alpha & Omega                                 Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Anno Dracula                                  Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Apotheosis                                    Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Artemis Fowl                                  Calibre     8      Replaced (from column Series)
    Bardic Voices                                 Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Blue Ant                                      Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Brainship                                     Calibre     9      Replaced (from column Series)
    Burton & Swinburne                            Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Business                                      Calibre     10     Replaced (from column Tags)
    Catteni                                       Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Chicks in Chainmail                           Calibre     5      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Chronicles of Amber                       Calibre     10     Replaced (from column Series)
    The Chronicles of Narnia (Publication Order)  Calibre     6      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Clockwork Century                         Calibre     6      Replaced (from column Series)
    Clockwork Earth                               Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Codex Alera                                   Calibre     6      Replaced (from column Series)
    Commonwealth Saga                             Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Compact Space                                 Calibre     5      Replaced (from column Series)
    Company Wars                                  Calibre     7      Replaced (from column Series)
    Crystal Singer                                Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Culture                                       Calibre     10     Replaced (from column Series)
    Darwath                                       Calibre     5      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Deed of Paksenarrion                      Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Deepgate Codex                                Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Discworld                                     Calibre     12     Replaced (from column Series)
    Divergent                                     Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Doona                                         Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Dream Park                                    Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Dresden Files                             Calibre     15     Replaced (from column Series)
    Elemental Masters                             Calibre     7      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Faded Sun                                 Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Fantasy                                       Calibre     331    Replaced (from column Tags)
    Finisterre                                    Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Foreigner                                     Calibre     9      Replaced (from column Series)
    Fortress                                      Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Freyaverse                                    Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Fuzzy Sapiens                                 Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Garrett Files                                 Calibre     13     Replaced (from column Series)
    Green Universe                                Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Hanan Rebellion                               Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Hollows                                   Calibre     12     Replaced (from column Series)
    Humanity's Fire                               Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Hunger Games                              Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    James Asher                                   Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Juno Mozambe Mystery                          Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Katherine "Kitty" Katt                        Calibre     5      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Kingkiller Chronicle                      Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Laundry Files                                 Calibre     6      Replaced (from column Series)
    Lean Series                                   Calibre     7      Replaced (from column Series)
    Liaden Universe                               Calibre     20     Replaced (from column Series)
    The Long Earth                                Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Long Price Quartet                            Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Mars Trilogy                                  Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Mercy Thompson                                Calibre     8      Replaced (from column Series)
    Merovingen Nights                             Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Milkweed Triptych                             Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Moonbase Saga                                 Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Morgaine Saga                                 Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    New Amsterdam                                 Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Night's Dawn (6 volume)                       Calibre     6      Replaced (from column Series)
    Otherland                                     Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Otherworld Stories                            Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Owner                                     Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Parrish Plessis                               Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Pern (Publication Order)                      Calibre     26     Replaced (from column Series)
    Petaybee                                      Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Planet Pirates                                Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Policy                                        Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Tags)
    Polity                                        Calibre     5      Replaced (from column Series)
    Quadrail                                      Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Rain Wilds Chronicles                         Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Second Foundation Trilogy                     Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Sentients of Orion                            Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Ship Breaker                                  Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Spatterjay                                    Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Spellcrackers.com                             Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Sun Wolf and Starhawk                         Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Sun-Cross                                     Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Talent                                    Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Tales of the Barque Cats                      Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Technology                                    Calibre     37     Replaced (from column Tags)
    Thieves' World                                Calibre     11     Replaced (from column Series)
    Thieves' World, 2nd Series                    Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Tower and the Hive                        Calibre     5      Replaced (from column Series)
    Unionside                                     Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    The Uplift Saga                               Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Uplift Storm Trilogy                          Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Void                                          Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)
    Warp Speed                                    Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Wild Cards                                    Calibre     21     Replaced (from column Series)
    Windrose Chronicles                           Calibre     4      Replaced (from column Series)
    Winterlands                                   Calibre     2      Replaced (from column Series)
    Women of the Otherworld                       Calibre     13     Replaced (from column Series)
    Zones of Thought                              Calibre     3      Replaced (from column Series)

Collections deleted from the Kindle:

    Collection       Managed By  Books  Change
    ----------       ----------  -----  ------
    Science Fiction  Calibre     388    Deleted "Science Fiction" (did not meet minimum of 2 books for column "Series")


=== Settings:

Column: Series
        Action:      Create
        Prefix:      ""
        Suffix:      ""
        Minimum:     2
        Ignore:      ""
        Include:     ""
        Rename from: ""
        Rename to:   ""
        Split on:    ""

Column: Tags
        Action:      Create
        Prefix:      ""
        Suffix:      ""
        Minimum:     ""
        Ignore:      ""
        Include:     science fiction, fantasy, business, technology, policy
        Rename from: ""
        Rename to:   ""
        Split on:    /

Never delete/modify these Kindle collections:      
Action when toolbar icon is clicked:               Show menu (default)
Preserve existing Kindle-only collections:         False
Ignore prefix/suffix when comparing Calibre names: True
Ignore case when pattern matching:                 True
Reset collection times:                            False
Ignore exported collections db:                    False
Only build a diff database:                        False
Kindle Model:                                      400
Calibre Personal doc tag:                          ""
Kindle collections file:                           /media/webmaven/Kindle/system/collections.json
Plugin customization file:                         /home/webmaven/.config/calibre/plugins/Kindle Collections.json
System Encoding:                                   UTF-8

Run View Report to see collection and book details

NiLuJe · 10-06-2014, 11:38 AM

@webmaven: Note that the include column is actually expecting a regex, not plaintext, so I assume that's where something wonky is happening.

See if changing your include setting to (science fiction|fantasy|business|technology|policy) helps.

Also note that if you do have a series called "Science Fiction", I have no idea how the clash between the tag & series rules will get resolved, and that may indeed trigger what you've experienced.

webmaven · 10-06-2014, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@webmaven: Note that the include column is actually expecting a regex, not plaintext, so I assume that's where something wonky is happening.

See if changing your include setting to (science fiction|fantasy|business|technology|policy) helps.

It did, though not to solve the problem. Partial matches for tags now works, but they aren't renamed to the partial, so I have more categories than I really want right now. I'll experiment more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

Also note that if you do have a series called "Science Fiction", I have no idea how the clash between the tag & series rules will get resolved, and that may indeed trigger what you've experienced.

I'm embarrassed to say that I did, with a single book in it. Editing the series name fixed the issue. Is that a user misstep you can guard against?

NiLuJe · 10-07-2014, 10:05 AM

@webmaven: Probably not in a sane way, no

.

Waylander · 10-12-2014, 07:25 PM

I create collections using the correct procedure as well as all the collections, there are copies of all the books that aren't in collection. In effect, there two of every book on my device. What do I do?

NiLuJe · 10-12-2014, 08:16 PM

@Waylander:

Play with the filtering settings of the Homescreen.
(Note that this has changed behavior multiple times, and isn't consistent across all devices. Of particular note, CM on FW >= 5.4.2 does things 'wrong', which may lead to weird filtering results. LS should do it 'right' (i.e., like the FW itself)).

Usually, the "Collections" view should only show Collections (obviously), and uncollected items, but this might have changed with the whole CloudCollections mess. Every other view will indeed show Collections & all items, regardless of wether they're in a collection or not (... and again, that might have changed with CloudCollections).

Waylander · 10-13-2014, 03:54 AM

I changed the view option to collections and that seems to have sorted it. Thanks for the advice anyway.

LiLYoda · 10-20-2014, 06:33 PM

Hello

I've toyed aroudn with the plugin, and I manage to create collections in Calibre, send them to the Kindle, and then import them on the Kindle using CM

However, I have tried the opposite: import in Calibre the collection status from the Kindle, and it doesn't seem to work. I have tried the export function both from CM and LS, both apps don't report any error, but when I import in Calibre, there is nothing imported

What I did then was create in Calibre, send collection to Kindle, modify this collection in CM on Kindle, export, then try to re import. And then Calibre imports the collection in the state it was in when it was sent to the Kindle

It seems that either:
- CM and LS aren't generating a file correctly, or in the wrong place
- The Calibre plugin doesn't import the right file

Is there a way to troubleshoot any further?

NiLuJe · 10-21-2014, 10:02 AM

@LiLYoda: Can you post a screenshot of your current settings (especially the checkboxes)? There might indeed be a counter-intuitive behavior with some setting combinations.

I'll take a look at it next week.

10-06-2014, 11:38 AM	#38
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@webmaven: Note that the include column is actually expecting a regex, not plaintext, so I assume that's where something wonky is happening. See if changing your include setting to (science fiction\|fantasy\|business\|technology\|policy) helps. Also note that if you do have a series called "Science Fiction", I have no idea how the clash between the tag & series rules will get resolved, and that may indeed trigger what you've experienced. Last edited by NiLuJe; 10-06-2014 at 11:41 AM.

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10-03-2014, 06:59 AM	#31
ersesedi Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: Kindle 4	I have read in the main post how to remove the plugin. But how does one remove the edits made by it and restore the kindle to the previous condition?

10-03-2014, 09:00 AM	#32
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@ersesedi: Delete all collections?

10-06-2014, 06:04 AM	#33
Waylander Guru Posts: 607 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB	If I get rid of the old collections, and the book therein, will that delete the books from the new collections? Not sure whether this or the CM thread is the right forum, as am using PW.

10-06-2014, 07:39 AM	#34
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@Waylander: Think of the collections as simple 'tags' attached to a book. A single book can have multiple tags. Removing those tags will in now way affect the book themselves . So, no, removing stuff from a collection will not actually delete said stuff, it'll just rip that tag off the file .

10-06-2014, 08:18 AM	#35
Waylander Guru Posts: 607 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB	OK, but what I mean is that I have a collection called Sc-Fi/Fantasy, and if I delete that collection, and the books in that collection, will those books still be in the collections created by the collections manager?

10-06-2014, 08:22 AM	#36
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@Waylander: If said collection is not managed by the plugin, then it will be gone. If it is managed by the plugin, it'll be recreated on the next import. That's the whole Plugin managed vs. Kindle managed thing as explained in the first post .

10-07-2014, 10:05 AM	#40
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@webmaven: Probably not in a sane way, no .

10-12-2014, 07:25 PM	#41
Waylander Guru Posts: 607 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB	I create collections using the correct procedure as well as all the collections, there are copies of all the books that aren't in collection. In effect, there two of every book on my device. What do I do?

10-12-2014, 08:16 PM	#42
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@Waylander: Play with the filtering settings of the Homescreen. (Note that this has changed behavior multiple times, and isn't consistent across all devices. Of particular note, CM on FW >= 5.4.2 does things 'wrong', which may lead to weird filtering results. LS should do it 'right' (i.e., like the FW itself)). Usually, the "Collections" view should only show Collections (obviously), and uncollected items, but this might have changed with the whole CloudCollections mess. Every other view will indeed show Collections & all items, regardless of wether they're in a collection or not (... and again, that might have changed with CloudCollections).

10-13-2014, 03:54 AM	#43
Waylander Guru Posts: 607 Karma: 2905052 Join Date: Oct 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 5 16GB	I changed the view option to collections and that seems to have sorted it. Thanks for the advice anyway.

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10-20-2014, 06:33 PM	#44
LiLYoda Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2014 Device: Kobo Glo HD	Hello I've toyed aroudn with the plugin, and I manage to create collections in Calibre, send them to the Kindle, and then import them on the Kindle using CM However, I have tried the opposite: import in Calibre the collection status from the Kindle, and it doesn't seem to work. I have tried the export function both from CM and LS, both apps don't report any error, but when I import in Calibre, there is nothing imported What I did then was create in Calibre, send collection to Kindle, modify this collection in CM on Kindle, export, then try to re import. And then Calibre imports the collection in the state it was in when it was sent to the Kindle It seems that either: - CM and LS aren't generating a file correctly, or in the wrong place - The Calibre plugin doesn't import the right file Is there a way to troubleshoot any further?

10-21-2014, 10:02 AM	#45
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,497 Karma: 26047188 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@LiLYoda: Can you post a screenshot of your current settings (especially the checkboxes)? There might indeed be a counter-intuitive behavior with some setting combinations. I'll take a look at it next week.