Color No future for this device

[mod186k1]

I stopped to post photo because it seems I have better light conditions. I think that's all with the ideas and opinions about this eReader. I (even with Lorenzo) have just spoken almost everything about the screen technology (color, readability with proper illumination etc) and firmware (what you can do and not) using my experience with LCD/LED and previous eink technology. I have my conclusion based on my experience and, for example Valentinka has hers.
But if we can do a summary I can say the crucial question is: did you like using Triton 9.7 screen in your environment?

• Yes - (I have counted 8 users that actualy has an JBC) some love Triton rendering, some other considers it acceptable
• No - (I counted 3 users that had a real JBC no occasional experinence)

When the answer is "No" user must get rid of JBC and will never buy another triton-based eReader (with the present technology).

When the answer is "Yes" user has got a bingo! It's true the firmware is not fully mature, but the potential are impressive! This is a fact not an opinion. The risk is if Ectaco will dismiss the JBC firmware before it can reach the full maturity and Ectaco won't release an open-SDK, JBC users would have only an half workable fantastic piece of hardware.

Edit: 8+3=11 users don't make a believable statistic, I'm sorry if my post seems say the opposite

[PF4Mobile]

Originally Posted by ProDigit

@PF4Mobile (and only to PF4Mobile):

I think most people don't come back because of trolling.
A user has a complaint,the complaint or a negative point to address, and after that other users have to repeat 20 times the same complaint again, eventhough it is addressed already.
For that reason none of the supporters of the JBC even take the time to read all the posts anymore in this thread!
It's just one big troll,and in my opinion should be removed from the forum, along with many trolling users on this thread.

I've never seen such an irrational thread in the whole of Mobile read for all the years I've been on this site! It's laughable, and should be posted in 'utterably silly' in the lounge instead of in the jetbook forum.

I mentioned before, the day a honest problem has been addressed, not hidden in a post mainly of complaints (so I won't need to pick the single sentence out of a hundred worthless negative comments that most of them aren't even true), that day I'll reply on the post.
But for what it's worth, my opinions are shared by a multitude of forum members; and one of the reasons WHY no one bothers visiting this thread anymore!

I just come hoping there would be some honest users amongst the trollers who have an honest question, one like yourself (I hope), to address those.
I have read your posts and presume you're not here to fuel the fire of trolling that someone ignited on this thread a while ago; but are honestly surprised about the negative comments posted in this thread.

Well,for you and all others,this thread is a joke! Laughable in it's content, and a troll. Don't worry! The Jetbook Color is a great device,and a great purchase! The people buying them have good experience with it; it's not a perfect device, and there will always be some who aren't happy with the device, but the overall idea is that it provides over 85% of what you expect of the device, and more soon when the next update will be here!

Focus on the question please not on what you would like the thread to be
Please address and dismount this issue. This user paid 500$ for this.

Edit: Just observation - right before taking pictures. I opened the pag 4 of this PDF file within seconds on DXG and iPad 2. It took at least 5 min to do it on JBC. Last time I used JBC less that 2 days ago (when I took bedroom pictures). The page 3 was displayed on JBC all this time. Tryed to move to page 4 (with button) or JBC's pen - nothing happened. Did it several times - nothing happend. Went to upper menue. Opened the document again. Still page 3. No succes moving to page 4. Went back up 2 levels (Book list - my Library). than back to the document. Still on page 3. No success turning to pafe 4 again. Turned of the power completely. Waited few seconds. Turned the power on. Liibrary - Book list - Pdf document. Turned page from page 3. No success. Pushed turning page button few times. Than it suddenly jumped right to page 6 or so. Went back to page 4 that I needed. All these manipilations were for the simple task (just move from page 3 (opened less than 2 days ago) to page 4. It took at least 5 min on JBC. It took no more than 3 sec on DXG and iPad 2 to get to the page 4 of this PDF.

[mod186k1]

It took at least 5 min to do it on JBC.

It's a real time calculation? It's very far from my experience. Maybe I have a suspect. can you post a video?

Edit: Just to be sure, can what is the PDF exactly? there are posted many. If there is some trouble I'll send an email to @support soon.

[Valentinka]

Originally Posted by mod186k1

Just to be sure, can what is the PDF exactly? there are posted many. If there is some trouble I'll send an email to @support soon.

This is the PDF file that lorenzoens sumitted for test. I used this file for my last 2 sets of pictures. Page 3 of this file - with the bedroom light (post # 243), page 4 - less than 2 days after that - outdoor after the rain (post # 278)

[ProDigit]

Originally Posted by PF4Mobile

Focus on the question please not on what you would like the thread to be
Please address and dismount this issue. This user paid 500$ for this.

I adressed this part of your post correctly:

Originally Posted by PF4Mobile

"I really don't understand one thing here.
None of the happy supporters of JBC seems to be interested in clarifying these horror stories you are posting here. I am talking here about the very supporters who are saying that this thread is polluted with negativity and it is recycling the same ideas. "

I told you WHY they are no longer posting here.

As about to address why the device costs $500, well, it costs $500; no need to address it any further! If you're not willing to pay that amount,then don't. however there are plenty who can, and will pay that amount!

Edit: Just observation - right before taking pictures. I opened the pag 4 of this PDF file within seconds on DXG and iPad 2. It took at least 5 min to do it on JBC. Last time I used JBC less that 2 days ago (when I took bedroom pictures). The page 3 was displayed on JBC all this time. Tryed to move to page 4 (with button) or JBC's pen - nothing happened. Did it several times - nothing happend. Went to upper menue. Opened the document again. Still page 3. No succes moving to page 4. Went back up 2 levels (Book list - my Library). than back to the document. Still on page 3. No success turning to pafe 4 again. Turned of the power completely. Waited few seconds. Turned the power on. Liibrary - Book list - Pdf document. Turned page from page 3. No success. Pushed turning page button few times. Than it suddenly jumped right to page 6 or so. Went back to page 4 that I needed. All these manipilations were for the simple task (just move from page 3 (opened less than 2 days ago) to page 4. It took at least 5 min on JBC. It took no more than 3 sec on DXG and iPad 2 to get to the page 4 of this PDF.

I yet have to find a PDF that loads longer than 15 seconds first booting time!
And I'm talking about a photoshop PDF book,with high resolution JPEGS in that get shrunk to fit the screen!
For regular (mostly text) pdf books the load time is below 10 seconds, with page flips of around 5 seconds,; and if the book has been opened before, it loads even faster.
JBC also let know that page flipping of text books will go faster with next update as one of the F/W upgrades.

However, one thing that might be helpful is that as soon as you see the blue led go out, the device enters into standby mode. This is normally set to 10-15 seconds, a bug that will most surely get adressed; that's why some ebooks never load. As soon as the blue led goes out, try pressing a button, or bring the pen in the proximity of the screen (within 1cm from the screen).
This will activate the device, and you'll see the book will continue to load.

[mod186k1]

Originally Posted by Valentinka

This is the PDF file that lorenzoens sumitted for test. I used this file for my last 2 sets of pictures. Page 3 of this file - with the bedroom light (post # 243), page 4 - less than 2 days after that - outdoor after the rain (post # 278)

Thank you Valentinka but I doubt it is the file which P4Mobile spoken of, because I tried this yesterday and I didn't noticed nothing of 5 min. in loading it on my JBC. Maybe is another file.

Edit: Valentinka, Even your JBC unit take 5 minutes to open it?

[Valentinka]

Originally Posted by mod186k1

When the answer is "No" user must get rid of JBC and will never buy another triton-based eReader (with the present technology).

That's exactly what I am trying to do for almost 2 weeks - GET RID OF JBC.

No success so far. NOBODY wants it including Ectaco.

[PF4Mobile]

Originally Posted by mod186k1

Thank you Valentinka but I doubt it is the file which P4Mobile spoken of, because I tried this yesterday and I didn't noticed nothing of 5 min. in loading it on my JBC. Maybe is another file.

Edit: Valentinka, Even your JBC unit take 5 minutes to open it?

this is incorrect
She wrote here about that page that takes 5 min to load and quoted her.

[Valentinka]

Originally Posted by mod186k1

Thank you Valentinka but I doubt it is the file which P4Mobile spoken of, because I tried this yesterday and I didn't noticed nothing of 5 min. in loading it on my JBC. Maybe is another file.

Edit: Valentinka, Even your JBC unit take 5 minutes to open it?

That's what I experienced yesterday when I decided to take the pictures outdoor. I got very frustrated while trying to go to page 4 of this PDF file after JBC has been in standby mode for about 40 hours. I described earlier what exactly I did before I finally got to page 4 (post # 278). You can repeat all this actions and check yourself how much time it will take you.

[mod186k1]

Ok, I will investigate to find out what the problem is and send an email to Ectaco. Thank you

Edit: Anyway I remember yesterday I open that file on my JBC and truning page after page I went to page 4 because I would see how that tint of color with my illumination. I didn't remember problem you claims. I will do some other deep test and I will try to reproduce your problem so I can do a more accurate report.

[mod186k1]

Ok,
I open the PDF file: 5sec.
I click on next button: 2sec.
I click on next button again: 2sec.
I click on next button again: 1sec.
** I am now on page number 4 **
Click Back button to exit from book: 2 sec.
I shut down the JBC using power interrupter: 11 sec.

Now I power on the unit: 35 sec.
I go in My Library-> ... -> file PDF
I open the file again: 5 sec.
*** The unit show me the page number 4 ***
Click on "<" and I get the page number 3: 2sec
Click on ">" and I get the page number 4: 2sec

I'm frustrated I can't reproduce the problem

Andyh2000, ProDigit, and others, could you try, please?

Edit: Valentinka I have a suspect: maybe you have the old Firmware?
Edit2: to check firmware version you can go: Settings-> Device Info: read under "Firmware Version"

[Dulin's Books]

its very understandable what happened with valentinka. its even been seen in the videos from "goodreader" that were posted recently.

she clicked the display/device and for whatever(sleep mode maybe or just about to when the click happened) reason the device stuck for a moment. when it did she clicked again and again. these added clicks add to the issue and so then it takes some time for it to work out what ever caused the original issue and then go through the waiting clicks.

the guys in the video were trying to page around a D&D Monster Manual type book when the device stuck for a moment. then they clicked and clicked and click again. "suddenly" the device jumps 6 pages and they dont understand what happened.(because they are incompetent)

this happens with all sorts of devices from time to time. its not a big deal. people become impatient when something doesnt happen instantly and then they add to the problem by clicking again and again etc etc. like when something doesn't print the first time people try again and again and they then end up with 20 things in the print queue.

[Valentinka]

Originally Posted by mod186k1

Edit: Valentinka I have a suspect: maybe you have the old Firmware?
Edit2: to check firmware version you can go: Settings-> Device Info: read under "Firmware Version"

OK. Firmware Version:

Platform revision: 43.35.509
r1128 Spanish 1128

[mod186k1]

Originally Posted by Valentinka

Platform revision: 43.35.509
r1128 Spanish 1128

The firmware seems to be the newest. It's strange, if I can't reproduce the problem the support will close the bug classifying it as false-positive.

If you noticed some other could you please notify me in PM?

I for example have found a problem on scribbling and I posted a video to support but I can also reproduce the bug

[Valentinka]

Originally Posted by mod186k1

The firmware seems to be the newest. It's strange, if I can't reproduce the problem the support will close the bug classifying it as false-positive.

If you noticed some other could you please notify me in PM?

I'll be glad to. Thanks!