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My aphorism “if the Authors Guild wants it, it’s stupid” I have recently bought a couple of books that each ./ought/ to have had the conventional note on the copyright page that chapters X to Y have previously appeared in a different form (as a short story in a anthology) They didn’t, so I was well past 10% read at the discovery point. Grr. Fool me twice. |
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Nothing is a perfect fix, but I agree with this change and see some of the author friends I have on Twitter celebrating this announcement and news. I rarely return an e-book, but a person should be able to tell if they can't tolerate the writing style before the 10% progress.
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Maybe I am wrong about that being a risk, but I'm thinking that readers, even dishonest ones, are on the cautious side. Also, it is easy to tell yourself that if a book turned out to be bad, you are entitled to return it. just like a lot of people will return a watermelon that is bad. If the supermarket takes such returns, and Amazon takes such returns, I have a hard time condemning the ebook returner, even though I wouldn't do it. |
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Again not something that should happen all that often. |
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I’ve returned only a handful of Kindle books, and it’s almost always because of a random touch combined with one-click, and very annoying it is, too, to have to jump through those hoops. My guess is that if Amazon let you opt out of one-click ordering for Kindle books, a significant proportion of “legitimate” returns would be eliminated. Which would have the advantage of concentrating returns to the more dubious.
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This would be great. I do love that Kobo at least lets me put all the books I want to buy in a cart then but them all at once. Much better, imo.
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I never thought of this possibility of mis-ordering until you mentioned it. And it totally changes my mind on how Amazon should treat returns. In my post above, I was targeting the malicious ebook returners, without realizing that there were reasons I never thought of for there to be a significant number of true accidental orders. Amazon could fix this by making one-click orders always be delivered to your account, not to any individual device. Then they could allow an infinite number of returns, that wouldn't get your account banned, IF the purchase was never downloaded from your account to one of your devices. Once you take the second step of downloading a book from your account to your device, then it's pretty hard to claim that you "accidentally" ordered the book. Amazon would still have to address the buy-read-return scenario, but at least they could cover the "accidental purchase" claim and take that off the table. |
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Could you do your e-book browsing while logged out / in a private window so that one-click ordering is not available? That would eliminate the risk of making accidental purchases.
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I turned off "one click" in my account, but that doesn't disable it for "Kindle" content, not all of which are real ebooks (or magazines formatted as ebooks). Sometimes you can buy more than one ebook per transaction but only if Amazon lists them like that! |
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I have always wondered why 1-click can be turned off for everything else but not for books.
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I'd bet Amazon sells significantly more books due to one click. It takes away the tendency to put a bunch of potential purchases into a cart and then whittle it down to those you 'really' want. |
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