04-01-2011, 04:43 PM | #16 |
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04-01-2011, 04:47 PM | #17 |
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I'm OK with such services (that allow offline usage) IF they don't replace purchasing options AND they make it clear that you're just 'renting'.
I subscribe to Rhapsody. I pay $15 per month for unlimited listening from their catalog & offline usage on three portable devices. This makes sense because, especially with my children, musical tastes change. I like a lot of different styles of music and can listen to anything that I want, on a whim, at work, and they can listen to the latest computer aided, marketing driven, talentless pop star of the week, without buying CDs every few weeks! Over the last 7 or so years I've probably spent more on music than I would have otherwise, I feel good that I'm not pirating the music, and everybody wins. I'd gladly pay $15 per month to Amazon to be allowed unlimited online reading of any books in their kindle store & unlimited reading on 3 ebook readers, knowing full well that I don't own the books and they're gone when I stop paying. My daughter reads a book every day or two... at $10 per I'm usually begging her to instead use the library or trade with friends! Yeah, there are some books that she'd still want to buy (Like the HP series), but we'd buy paper copies of those books. It better reflects the reality of ebooks which aren't physical objects and are often read and forgotten. Last edited by twowheels; 04-01-2011 at 04:49 PM. |
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04-01-2011, 04:58 PM | #18 | |
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Its not really that different , come to think of it, from what you do when you "buy" an ebook- there you buy a right to read the ebook for an unlimited time. If Amazon went out of business tomorrow , you would be in the same position anyway. Again, if people don't like the model, then it won't work. These days, however, people stream music without buying it, without feeling that they are morons who don't know what's good for them. Guess its easy to look down your long nose at those "soiled masses" who prefer a different model to those in the know. |
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04-01-2011, 05:04 PM | #19 | |
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04-01-2011, 05:20 PM | #20 |
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How does this "CLOUD" work if I cannot get on the internet? Yes, there are still places, thankfully, that are remote or wilderness, where I want my book or my next book. If there's not internet service, does that mean NO BOOK(s)?
This might be similar to the gps apps that need access to the "cloud" but fail to work while driving in the mountains or some other hinterlands. I like my maps local, on the unit. I don't care if my maps are somewhat out-of-date. |
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04-01-2011, 05:28 PM | #21 |
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This already exists... it's called Google eBooks.
http://books.google.com/help/ebooks/overview.html BOb |
04-01-2011, 05:35 PM | #22 | |
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Hey everyone else is doing it. I understand that most people would rather attack "greedy", "idiot" publishers, beat their chest and threaten that they would jump to the nearest piracy site if the publishers don't do as they say, etc, but the plain fact is that the publishers are businessmen who WILL NOT adopt a model that they think threaten their livilihoods, just because some folks on MR think they should. I think that the publishers and booksellers will most likely offer a cloud subscription model, alongside the present model and I think it might even become the dominant model. People will continue to "purchase" downloadable copies, of course, but only for special books that they want to reread. These may or may not be DRMED, but they will be a small minority of the ebooks read. I predict that Google or Amazon will do it first, but Apple might surprise everyone. Last edited by stonetools; 04-01-2011 at 05:48 PM. |
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04-01-2011, 05:37 PM | #23 | |
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04-01-2011, 05:58 PM | #24 | |
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Will I be able to load and listen to my music/audiobooks on my Clip+, my iTouch, my car stereo, and any other devices I buy in future, until the day I die? If the answer is "no" to any of the above, why would I have any interest in "the cloud"? |
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04-01-2011, 06:23 PM | #25 |
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Maybe publishers are starting to realise that, after all, DRM doesn't work, so they come up with even crazier ideas, like this cloud thing.
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04-01-2011, 06:37 PM | #26 | |
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FYI, no one is under any obligation to sell anything to you under terms you dictate. If you don't like the terms, do without. It's not your property. Last edited by tubemonkey; 04-01-2011 at 07:27 PM. Reason: two words missing - "the options" |
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The music industry said the same damn thing & we see where that got them. If the publishers need to learn the same stupid lesson the hard way as well, we will be more than happy to oblige them. |
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04-01-2011, 08:07 PM | #28 |
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I'll go beyond that-- if publishers go towards the model the OP mentioned I will actively proselytize people to pirate books. I would want to destroy the evil utterly, and send the publishers out of business. Forget "civil disobedience", I'd want open warfare.
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04-01-2011, 08:16 PM | #29 | |
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04-01-2011, 09:00 PM | #30 |
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I believe in property rights-- to a point. But there is a point beyond which the peasants need to uprise and introduce the aristocrats to Madame Guillotine. I have no interest in eating cake.
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