05-09-2022, 05:06 PM | #16 |
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I like both, so having them all in one place works great for me.
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05-09-2022, 06:34 PM | #18 |
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I would prefer that they were separated, but it doesn't bother me that they are grouped together.
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There is already plenty of other overlap anyway. Horror, mystery, crime, adventure, romance and eroticism all the rest regularly get mashed up. Even fiction and non-fiction get mashed up often enough to sometimes cause issues trying to separate them on the shelf. |
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05-09-2022, 07:28 PM | #20 |
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There are "edge cases" in EVERY genre, if that's a reason for not separating SF and fantasy, why bother separating any? I should add that couldn't give a fetid dingo kidney for what happens in pbook stores, I just hate having to scroll through 50 pages of "SF/Fantasy" at Kobo to find 5 actual SF stories.
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05-09-2022, 07:31 PM | #21 |
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That is the exact thing that prompted this thread. Especially since I noticed that Amazon grouped them together, but actually had subcategories (and further subcategories, such as 'space opera' or 'epic fantasy').
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Yah. With digital books, if there's overlap, you can just tag it as both. Physical books not so much.
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05-09-2022, 08:57 PM | #24 |
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I ignore online stores that don't at least make an effort to separate the two. I'd rather not plow through page after page of results riddled with fantasy while browsing for interesting sci-fi.
Of course there are many edge cases, but even so it's vastly better than having everything lumped together. Yes, this. To anyone out there who might start an online bookshop someday: please, please, please, yes! |
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By the time I make it to a bookstore - online or physical - I am looking for specific titles. So "search" in online stores or a sales person in a physical store works for me. As far as how I get the specific titles, much of that comes from these forums - gleaning titles from various posts. Some are friends recommendations. Sometimes I'll look at new release lists. Other times I'll remember some series or author I started once, and go do specific searches on that to see if they have released anything new.
I can't say that I've ever just wandered into a bookstore, online or not, with zero idea of what I might want. That would take a long time to just randomly stumble into something I might be interested in. I probably have indeed done this sometime long ago, but it was so long ago that I've forgotten that I did it. |
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[QUOTE=cpegg;4220708]I ignore online stores that don't at least make an effort to separate the two. I'd rather not plow through page after page of results riddled with fantasy while browsing for interesting sci-fi.
Worse still are the online shops that don’t distinguish between YA and adult especially with Fantasy (as YA fantasy has seen quite the rise in popularity) I’m not saying YA is inferior to adult books but the two are clearly written for different audiences. Sure there are a few edge cases here, books like Enders Game (admittedly sci-fi not fantasy) can also be YA. But books by Sarah J. Mass are decidedly YA not adult. |
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That's because physical stores are the only place that matters. If you have to scroll through fifty pages at Kobo, you'd be better off looking to the left and choosing the correct sub-category. I don't normally shop Kobo and was able to figure it out in ten seconds.
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1) only in a physical store do you have to choose just one category to put the book in (I suppose they could put half the stock in each category), in the online system plenty of books are put in both (which doesn't actually help much with the problem, see next) 2) only in a physical store is book categorisation (actual shelf placement) up to the book seller. In online stores categories are generally provided by the publisher, so the fact that you end up with YA stuff appearing under romance, sci-fi, fantasy, and George Orwell and Émile Zola appearing under YA is (as far as I know) not Kobo's fault. |
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