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as long as you're not selling your work,or using it for commercial purposes I'm fine with that.
I still need to find the time to create an intro for the old testament. Some bibles have an introduction before chapter 1 of every book inside the bible that needs to be displayed. Work did not allow me to create it yet. |
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Eg: the book introductions of Matthew Henry's bible commentary are open source, just like the rest of the book. KJV and ASV have no introductions, but I've included a bible frame versions without the introduction as well in the .rar. If there are bibles in copyright, the copyright status usually applies to the bible book introductions too. There are few bible commentaries that are open source that have book introductions. but technically, or usually copyright info allows users to use upto a certain amount of verses or pages to be used in a document. One could create a summary of reading the introductions of different bible versions, and put that in the introduction, or just put some personal notes there while encoding. Or even copy parts of the introduction of different bibles, as long as the copied text falls into copyright regulations. It's no more like I created an extra chapter per bible book. Last edited by ProDigit; 03-14-2009 at 11:13 PM. |
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Haven't had any time yet to update a new version with old testament intro.
In case you're waiting for it,please leave a note. I'mkind of doing priorities right now,and as long as noone really needs the OT with introduction, I'd prefer moving it on the slow lane. Just leave a note if you are waiting, then I'll try prioritizing it higher. |
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I know this is an old thread I've stumbled on, and this isn't about your software (I am not technical enough to comment), but on your copyright statement.
If you say: "This file is free of copyright" you are dedicating it to the Public Domain. Essentially this statement has emancipated your work from the "protection" of copyright. But what you say after indicates that is not what you want to do. The many and varied licenses (the most famous being the GPL and Creative Commons) that have sprung up to mitigate the insanity of patent and copyright law in recent years, restrict or empower as desired by using copyright law. Copyright law is what allows the license to have "teeth." Once you renounce copyright, you also renounce any ability to apply restrictions. It sounds like what you want is a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial Sharealike license (CC by-nc-sa) People do write their own licenses, of course, but one should be very well versed in the law, or get legal advice, before doing so, if you want to be sure of the ground. Using an untested license places your work at the mercy of the law courts, which can range very widely these days. |
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Thank you for the advise, and my apologies for my late reply.
I don't know much of copyright at all, and I'm sure if there's someone out there that wants to sue, they can, and force mobile read to remove my creation. However, all I wanted with this is for this file to remain readily available for people creating their bibles. And in some ways, the date and the time of posting protects me from someone filing a patent or copyright on a similar file in the future. Ofcourse, I'm entirely dependent upon the mobileread servers. If they ever lose the data, so will my evidence. In some ways it basically protects the file from most common thievery and lawsuits, though not all of them. Kind of like putting a lock on a bike. Eventhough those locks are easily picked, they still protect the bike from most commoners to pick it up and run away with it! |
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I've moved this thread into the "Workshop" forum, which is where it belongs.
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I think it would make a nice conversation on mobileread, to give easy step by step instructions, and/or easy access to link a work to public domain, or to some form of protected status. I don't mind anyone using or modifying it. I don't mind anyone creating their own works around it. I do think it's fair, if someone is receiving money from it, to pay royalties to the sources, and in this case does not have to be me, but a part of the profit to perhaps mobileread to keep the servers running, or other goodwill organization (although I will never say no to someone wanting to donate some money to a man such as myself ![]() |
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What you can of course do is add something to a public domain work, and then you will hold a copyright on those portions that you have added. Eg, many scholarly editions of the work of Dickens have introductory essays, explanatory notes, etc. Those are copyrighted, even though the actual text of the novel is not. |
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Public Domain and Copyright
Public domain works are available to everyone to do whatever they want, including publishing and selling it. If I publish a book of "A Christmas Carol" by Charles Dickens, I can put a copyright notice on my physical book. This means that you can't photograph or scan my pages and then publish and sell it yourself. What is copyright is my expression of the book; how I've laid it out, illustrations, like that. What you can do is copy the content; ie the words from my publication, because the words comprising A Christmas Carol are in the public domain.
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In spite of its name, copyright is not actually a "right" but a state granted monopoly, and so is different in different countries around the world. Charles Dickens was enormously annoyed with the United States because at the time he was a superstar, the US did not respect any other country's copyright, and his works were copyright in England. Thus anyone in the US with a printing press could (and did) print copies of Mr. Dickens works, and he received not a penny in royalties. Under English law this was piracy, under American law not. This is the kind of thing which led to the development of international copyright treaties. What often happens today is something called "copyfraud" where someone claims copyright on a public domain work. They may go so far as to sue others for infringing their copyright; certainly they attempt to intimidate others from reusing the work. I wrote a blog post about it here http://laurelrusswurm.wordpress.com/...modernization/ because it is something that I think copyright law should address. At most people doing this get a slap on the wrist, even though copyfraud is an act of piracy, not from a private rightsholder, but from the public. This is against the public interest no matter what jurisdiction, but it seems there is no one lobbying for the public. Governments have been inventing new classes of copyright over the last century, and even applying them retroactively. Because copyright law is made by different countries, each country can make their own rules, and then break them. Possibly the most famous literary work to come from Canada, "Anne of Green Gables", has been placed under a weird special perpetual copyright because it is too good a cash cow to let go. England has done something similar with "Peter Pan," which proceeds fund a hospital I believe. I've recently learned that the "Authorized Version of the King James Bible (1611) is held under perpetual #copyright in the UK by the British Crown to this day." https://twitter.com/#!/parlementum/s...72750161813506 Quote:
It's a big mess these days because there are too many people wanting a piece of the action. The big media companies want to turn back the hands of time to the days when they controlled everything, and rather than adapting to the changes brought by technology, they are trying to achieve this by having the laws rewritten to suit their interests (SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, DMCA, DEAct, C-11 etc.) rather than the public interest. I do suggest that you look at Creative Commons http://creativecommons.org/ and possibly at the GPL http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html to see what would work best for this. |
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![]() Emily Bronte has been dead quite long enough to place this book assuredly into the public domain, yet it (and every other classic I own) carries a copyright notice. As I said, my understanding is that it pertains to the particular edition, because certainly the text of books in the public domain remain in the public domain when they are published. If there is another explanation for this, I'd be curious to hear it. Last edited by LaurelRusswurm; 02-13-2012 at 05:30 AM. Reason: reducing the size of the scanned image |
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I guess they just add copyright notices by default, and don't care if they are or not meaningful.
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Copyfraud If you're interested in this, Jason Mazzone's research http://www.copyfraud.com/ is a good place to start. Searching for "copyfraud" or "attack on the public domain" produces quantities of information. For instance, there are plenty of websites posting watermarked images of art that is in the public domain, and claiming copyright for the versions they are selling. Lobbyists As Laura N. Gasaway's essay http://works.bepress.com/aallcallforpapers/5/ explains, the public domain is under attack from expanding copyright terms etc. Governments But not only that, Techdirt reported recently on the US removing work that had been in the public domain. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...c-domain.shtmlThat isn't the first time, either. Canada (where I am) is about to pass "Bill C-11 The Copyright Modernization Act" which will protect TPMs/DRM on media and devices above all other copyright considerations. That means is it will be illegal for Canadians to access digital media we own, or that are in the public domain, if there is any kind of digital lock on it. Being cynical, my assumption is that the moment this passes, any device (including eBook readers) destined for Canada will be encumbered with digital locks. Quote:
"I hereby waive all copyright and related or neighboring rights together with all associated claims and causes of action with respect to this work to the extent possible under the law. " ---http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/waiver Copyright laws began changing radically when Mickey Mouse almost got into the public domain, and have been riding a roller coaster ever since. The thing is, so much is changing so fast, much of it has yet to be tested in court. One of the concerns is that since copyright outlives creators, even if I dedicate something to the public domain, my heirs may challenge it and remove it after I'm dead. A friend of mine is a photographer in the Netherlands, and she is unhappy because Dutch Law does not allow her to bequeath her work to the Public Domain after her death. My understanding is that moral rights are unwaivable in any jurisdiction where they exist (like Canada) so anything placed in the public domain is only there "to the extent possible under the law." Which is not the exact equivalent of work in the public domain. As far as I can see, the problem is that the general public doesn't have legal departments and lobbyists to plead our case. Most of think that our governments will protect the public domain because it is in the public interest. For whatever reason, governments seem to listen to lobbyists more than citizens these days. I'm tired, so I hope this makes sense. |
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