Spiritual Various: Bible: World English Version - Page 2

edbro · 08-11-2007, 09:25 PM

I've been considering purchasing the NIV version in Palm format. But, I'd like to know if it will convert properly with the TOC? I've used ABC Palm Converter to successfully convert PalmDocs before but, there were no TOCs involved then.

pcinfoman · 08-13-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gingercat

For some strange reason it crashes my reader when I try to change the font size - I'd like to look into that to find out why as well.

I am having the same problem. Now that it is set at the size that crashes the Reader, I cannot resize it anymore or navigate pages. I have to delete it.

In addition, it shows up on my Reader with a title of "bible" and no author. Can we modify this to give it a title of "Bible" and an author of "World English Version" please?

JSWolf · 08-13-2007, 11:21 AM

This book has a bit over 6000 pages at size small. So it could be that changing the font size just takes a good long time. How long have you given it to change the font size?

pcinfoman · 08-13-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

This book has a bit over 6000 pages at size small. So it could be that changing the font size just takes a good long time. How long have you given it to change the font size?

I let it sit for about 10 minutes.

JSWolf · 08-13-2007, 12:23 PM

Were the arrows moving in a circle?

pcinfoman · 08-13-2007, 12:29 PM

No. when I resized, it flashed the screen and then nothing. I was able to go to the main Sony Reader menu, but whenever I loaded the book, it just hung.

JSWolf · 08-13-2007, 12:32 PM

Problem is, I cannot tell what was used to create this. It wasn't Book Designer. I would like the OP to please tell us how this was created. Thanks!

JSWolf · 08-13-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elf

Hi Guys,

Have completed a BBeB version of the World English Bible.

The bookname -> chapter number menu works ok, but I am not totally happy with it - navigating to Deut book 20 for example takes 5 million clicks. I have an idea on how to improve it, and will hopefully have a version 2 up soon. Try it out, and let me know if there are any broken chapters/links!

Any comments on how to improve the navigation system might help my fine tune V2.

Enjoy!
Elf

How did you create the LRF version? Thanks!

beartard · 08-13-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pcinfoman

No. when I resized, it flashed the screen and then nothing. I was able to go to the main Sony Reader menu, but whenever I loaded the book, it just hung.

I tried making an LRF version of the New American Bible. It was a huge file. I had to let it format overnight. It was way too slow to be of any use. Might be the same problem.

gingercat · 08-14-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Russell

Isn't there a font selection on the Connect software?

No there's no font selection that I can find anyway. If I've missed something let me know

gingercat · 08-14-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beartard

I tried making an LRF version of the New American Bible. It was a huge file. I had to let it format overnight. It was way too slow to be of any use. Might be the same problem.

It seems to be something other than the size of a book that makes ot format slowly as I have a bible version that formats quite quickly. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the font you select when you create the book in the first place.

JSWolf · 08-14-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gingercat

It seems to be something other than the size of a book that makes ot format slowly as I have a bible version that formats quite quickly. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the font you select when you create the book in the first place.

Did you install this on a memory card or the reader's internal memory? I think if it's on a memory card, the reader may have to do some of the formatting unlike internally where Connect does it for you.

KDawg · 08-15-2007, 03:22 PM

I see a NIV has been published at Sony. Two questions:

1. When someone buys it, what are your thoughts on the formatting?

2. What are people's thoughts on the accuracy of WEV vs. NIV vs. KJV? I'm not very familiar with new (post-Renaissance) translations.

NatCh · 08-15-2007, 04:04 PM

I'll take a shot at this one:

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Originally Posted by KDawg

2. What are people's thoughts on the accuracy of WEV vs. NIV vs. KJV?

Please forgive me if I'm telling you stuff you already know.

The WEB is an "updating" of the language in the ASV (American Standard Version -- you can find the source site here). The drawback to the KJV is that its also a language update of a previous translation, rather than a direct translation. In fact, the KJV is several layers of language updates away from its original translation. The reason that's a drawback is that it allows multiple opportunities for mis-translation.

The New KJV (NKJV) on the other hand, is a direct translation from the original source texts, but preserves the 'thee and thou' feel of the KJV, which a lot of folks like both because it tends to flow nicely, and because it's familiar to them.

The NIV is another direct translation, it is a conceptual translation (I think the NKJV is too, but I'm not sure of that). By that I mean they translate each sentence rather than each word. It also flows pretty well, though, arguably, not as nicely as the NKJV.

The New American Standard (NASB -- I know you didn't ask about it, but I'll be as thorough as I have information for, don't worry, this is about the last of it), is also a direct translation, but it is a word by word translation, rather than a sentence by sentence. This means that it doesn't flow as well, but it arguably is a more technically accurate translation.

Personally, I like the NIV and the NASB for my own purposes, with the NASB being my current "main" translation. The NKJV is just as good a translation, in my opinion, as either of those (I just happen to prefer the others), but I try to stay away from indirect translations, like the KJV.

The least useful, for my purposes, are the 'paraphrase' translations such as the "Living Bible" or the "Good News Bible," they tend to eliminate all but the most brutally obvious meaning of a given passage, losing any nuance that was in the original text. That can be useful if you've got a passage that you just can't make heads nor tails of, but that's about the extent of it, to my thinking.

I tend to lump translations like those under the SGV label -- "Some Goofy Version."

gingercat · 08-15-2007, 06:39 PM

but the problem is we have to use what we can download and format ourselves which limits the options a bit. I use WEB Messianic version but the NKJV sounds good if it come out in BBeB format. I have noticed that books formatted by Sony always seem to use small fonts tho.

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08-11-2007, 09:25 PM	#16
edbro Banned Posts: 640 Karma: 4911 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Grapevine, TX Device: iPad4	I've been considering purchasing the NIV version in Palm format. But, I'd like to know if it will convert properly with the TOC? I've used ABC Palm Converter to successfully convert PalmDocs before but, there were no TOCs involved then.

08-13-2007, 11:21 AM	#18
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 76,433 Karma: 136564696 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	This book has a bit over 6000 pages at size small. So it could be that changing the font size just takes a good long time. How long have you given it to change the font size?

08-13-2007, 12:23 PM	#20
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 76,433 Karma: 136564696 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Were the arrows moving in a circle?

08-13-2007, 12:29 PM	#21
pcinfoman Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Sony eReader PRS-500	No. when I resized, it flashed the screen and then nothing. I was able to go to the main Sony Reader menu, but whenever I loaded the book, it just hung.

08-13-2007, 12:32 PM	#22
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 76,433 Karma: 136564696 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Problem is, I cannot tell what was used to create this. It wasn't Book Designer. I would like the OP to please tell us how this was created. Thanks!

08-15-2007, 03:22 PM	#28
KDawg Junior Senior Posts: 94 Karma: 81 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Device: nookColor, nook, PRS-900, PRS-505, PRS-500, Kindle PW, Kindle Oasis	I see a NIV has been published at Sony. Two questions: 1. When someone buys it, what are your thoughts on the formatting? 2. What are people's thoughts on the accuracy of WEV vs. NIV vs. KJV? I'm not very familiar with new (post-Renaissance) translations.

08-15-2007, 06:39 PM	#30
gingercat Connoisseur Posts: 92 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2007 Device: iRex iliad	but the problem is we have to use what we can download and format ourselves which limits the options a bit. I use WEB Messianic version but the NKJV sounds good if it come out in BBeB format. I have noticed that books formatted by Sony always seem to use small fonts tho.

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