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1. Everand deals with the library side now (subscription based reading/audiobook listening)
2. Scribd is strictly a PDF file-sharing site and you have to either upload 5 docs or get a subscription to download something. Quote:
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The reason I got so worried about this is because I was worried that I'd be literally shackled to scribd.com's premium subscription service for the rest of my life because my PDF files or .TXT files that I've downloaded would be deleted if I ever canceled my subscription to scribd.com. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I already have wayyyyy too many monthly subscriptions and I didn't want to add on yet another one! I hope this community can understand my feeling? |
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This just seems to go against the terms of service at Scribd, and is no different than outright piracy.
"7. You may not make copies of all or any portion of any Subscription Content;" "In addition to the foregoing, Your access to Subscription Content is conditioned upon timely payment of Your monthly or annual Subscription fees (“Subscription Fees”); and You will not have access to Subscription Content if Your Subscription is canceled, allowed to lapse, or terminated for non-payment." |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() These particular PDF files and .TXT files do not have DRM protection so I'm not even trying to defeat any form of DRM protection. There are other files on Scribd that have this DRM protection but I have no interest in circumventing this. Also, I'm only talking about 1 PDF file/.TXT file not a whole bunch. I hope I'm being clear. |
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Trying to justify ebook piracy by stating "I am only going to pirate one book" is not helpful. If you downloaded a book from your local library, would you feel entitled to keep a copy after your loan expired? |
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The "Download Option" is impossible to miss if you looked at the website. |
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The question is not if you are allowed to download the file, it is a question of whether you have a right to keep that file after your subscription to Scribd expires. Going by Scribd's terms and conditions, the answer to that question is no, you are not entitled to keep a copy of that content unless you have a valid subscription in effect. This has nothing to do with your ability to download the file while your subscription is in effect. I agree that the people telling you that you do not have a right to keep that file in perpetuity are correct. Your argument seems to be equivalent to arguing that you should entitled to keep a copy of a library loan after the loan period expired since the library allowed you to download the file. |
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Simply using something, even if free, can be subject to restrictions. Though TOS may have invalid clauses no matter if a subscription or not.
If something is on your computer and works without the Internet it likely is no more vulnerable to remote deletion/blocking than anything else. Then the only issues are legal (may be civil or criminal law depending on country and content) and moral. The validity of TOS / T&C has nothing to do with free vs subscription. Our local library is free, but obviously has T&C as well as generic criminal legal protection from theft, abuse, vandalism. Copyright books are often free, but you are breaking criminal or civil law (depending on location and actions) giving or uploading a copy. People need to get their own copy. Also well established that sharing to get content that's organised by a website can be legal content, or copyright violation no matter what the web site claims. Some content, even if PD can be illegal. Whether or not you can use content or copy content is a separate issue to any TOC / T&C, moral or legal issues. |
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1) If it's a downloaded PDF and it opens locally on a PDF reader (with no internet), then of course it can still be read. 2) The issue of should one keep and read files after a subscription has ended is completely separate. |
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The library analogy is completely besides the point: Scribd is a file-sharing service and the subscription only gets you an easier download, just like some other file-sharing services give you faster speeds with a subscription. The subscription has nothing to do with the right to read and keep the file, during or after it being active. Whether the download is a legitimate or a pirated PDF (there are plenty of those up on Scribd) is entirely between the uploader and the downloader. Last edited by paperwhite13; 04-28-2024 at 03:25 AM. |
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