05-18-2024, 09:38 AM | #16 | |
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Proof read with your Deja Vu set to 11? The concordance tool sounds good to detect repetitive writing, which really annoys people if it slips past the proof reading. |
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05-18-2024, 09:48 AM | #17 | |
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Indeed any search tool is useless unless you know the exact repeating text. [* Unless it has a project / session mode that remembers previous files?] |
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05-18-2024, 10:15 AM | #18 | |
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05-18-2024, 11:00 AM | #19 | |
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And double-clicking a hit gives you short context. And double-clicking the context brings up the whole text, with repetition highlighted. Perfect. Doitsu, thank you so much! See above. |
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10-14-2024, 11:17 PM | #20 | |
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But like Doitsu pointed out, what you want to look for is called:
So:
You can also use Calibre to temporarily convert your book to a TXT, and then there are plenty of "n-gram" tools out there to try and test out. - - - Side Note: I've written about "List-Based Spellchecking" + n-grams in detail, and have been using this to rip apart + edit books... for over 10 years now. For some of my recent posts, see:
I cover stuff like how I use Spellcheck Lists to catch:
then how I use n-grams to catch repetitious repetitions throughout the books! I also use Regular Expressions to quickly catch/refine/clean up a lot of this repetitious crap too! - - - Side Note #2: I even gave a talk about this last year in the:
- - - Side Note #3: If you're interested, just last week I wrote an "article" on how I use n-grams. This past month, I've been working on (conversion+proofing of) a 450k word beast of an ebook... The author wanted me to copyedit/proofread, so I:
Here's a little sample: - - - - - - - - - - N-grams These show you how many times you "repeat a phrase"/"chunk of words". So a list of "3-grams" would show you every "chunk of 3 words in a row". So if you took:
and ran 3-grams on it, the output would show:
You repeated "an example sentence" twice! When you run this across the entire book, these "repetitive patterns" pop right out! How I Use Them 1. I start with the biggest n-grams first... • Then work my way down. • 6-grams, 5-grams, 4-grams, ... 2. When I find an interesting phrase + high number... • I search the entire book for it. 3. I read the sentence... • Use this to chop/refine! • Fix/reword sentences as needed. 4. Repeat Step 2 in passes. In your case, we can skip the 7-grams and 6-grams (it's mostly just these super-long titles like "Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"). 5-grams is where we start seeing really interesting patterns. [... It then goes through 5-grams, 4-grams, 3-grams, 2-grams... showing the types of things/patterns that can be found with each. ...] Last edited by Tex2002ans; 10-15-2024 at 12:04 AM. |
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