Things you can do with your iLiad - Page 2

Utahcowboy · 07-06-2008, 01:47 PM

I have a question too. I am considering buying an illiad but I have some questions.
1. Can you only annotate pdf files?
2. How big can you make the font size in other file formats? (I don't see very well, thats why I am asking)
3. How quick is the response time in flipping pages and cycling through menus compared with other ebook devices?
4. Seeing as you can write and draw pictures on a note pad, can you then attach these files to other document formats?
5. Does it support pull down menus?

I am asking these questions because I believe I made a mistake in buying my Cybook because it is slow and relatively featureless. I got it because I knew that I could make the font big enough to read.

astra · 07-06-2008, 02:11 PM

iLiad is no faster than CyBook Gen3

wallcraft · 07-06-2008, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utahcowboy

1. Can you only annotate pdf files?
2. How big can you make the font size in other file formats? (I don't see very well, thats why I am asking)
3. How quick is the response time in flipping pages and cycling through menus compared with other ebook devices?
4. Seeing as you can write and draw pictures on a note pad, can you then attach these files to other document formats?
5. Does it support pull down menus?

1. Yes, only PDFs.
2. In FBReader, 72 pt is possible but 36 pt puts enough text on each line (shown below) with any font. In MobiPocket Reader, about 36 pt but with limited font selection, no hyphenation and no control of line spacing. The font size of the contentlister (menus) can't be changed. See the attached screenshots. Don't forget that the screen is larger than the Gen3's, but still relatively small.
3. Slower. MobiPocket Reader is optimized but still a bit slower than other devices. 3rd party software like FBReader can be very slow.
4. I'm not sure, but I doubt it.
5. Standard apps use the icons at the bottom of the screen for most things. For example, in MobiPocket Reader the font size of changed by clicking on the Aa-up or Aa-down icons. Ported X11 apps can use any GTK+ (say) features, but X11 partial screen updates often cause ghosting.

nekokami · 07-06-2008, 11:19 PM

I haven't noticed any particular slowness in page turns with FBreader, only in PDFs.

The pictures you draw in notes are stored as PNG files. You can't attach them to anything on the iLiad itself, but you can embed them in other documents (I've done this in OpenOffice documents).

renushan · 09-03-2008, 04:19 AM

Dear Iliad enthusiasts,

I am Renu, one lucky girl. My kid brother bought me Sony PRS-500 a year ago, and my big brother is sending me Iliad in a few days!

I request you to answer a query of mine. My mother-tongue is Tamil and I have a few Tamil books scanned. There are no good Tamil OCRs available. I used PDFLRFWIN utility to format the scanned pdf for Sony. I searched through the net, and I found that there is no such utility that automatically crops and reflows scanned PDFs. (PDFLRFWIN cuts the page into Sony size and attaches the left over with next page, then cuts the next page and so on). I tried with PDFCROPPER, it crops, but does not reflow the document.

I am no programmer, and cannot work with scripts. Can any of you please suggest me a utility similar to PDFLRFWIN for Iliad?

Thank you.

wallcraft · 09-04-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renushan

I am no programmer, and cannot work with scripts. Can any of you please suggest me a utility similar to PDFLRFWIN for Iliad?

I assume PDFLRF does not have a PDF output option? If it did, then you could continue to use it for the iLiad. I just saw LRF to PDF,XML and RTF Conversion tool, which might also work PDF (PDFLRF) -> LRF (DUMPLRF) -> PDF.

However, the original PDF (perhaps first run through PDFCROPPER) may work "as is" on the iLiad. The iLiad does not reflow PDFs, but the various versions of IPDF support displaying PDF pages in pieces on the fly. Note this (which is essentially what PDFLRF does as a preprocessing step) is not "reflowing". When reflowing a PDF, the location of text on the page is changed - and this does not work with scans (which are images) unless they are run through OCR first.

nekokami · 09-04-2008, 02:48 PM

You might want to try viewing the PDF on the iLiad in "continuous" mode as-is, to see if it is readable. Zoom in to eliminate margins. If that's not enough, try landscape/continuous mode. I think most texts would be readable this way. The only ones I find difficult are multi-column pages (you want one of the column iPDF solutions for that).

renushan · 09-05-2008, 03:48 PM

Thank you friends for the prompt replies and wonderful suggestions. I will try these on my Iliad and get back to you. It should arrive today or tomorrow, and I am quite excited about that. Yes, wallcraft, pdflrfwin outputs lrf only. Yes again, you are right, what I want is to "re-piece" the pages and not reflow them.

patnpm · 09-12-2008, 02:46 PM

As far as the note attachments go, something I got very excited about was that they are very easily imported into Evernote (www.evernote.com) which will subject them to OCR (for free) and catalogue all your notes in a searchable, online database - an example note here

http://www.evernote.com/pub/patnpm/public

Although I accept that if you aren't already an Evernote user this might be rather a niche use.

nekokami · 09-13-2008, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patnpm

As far as the note attachments go, something I got very excited about was that they are very easily imported into Evernote (www.evernote.com) which will subject them to OCR (for free) and catalogue all your notes in a searchable, online database - an example note here

http://www.evernote.com/pub/patnpm/public

Although I accept that if you aren't already an Evernote user this might be rather a niche use.

Now that is seriously cool. Which of the phrases you wrote (if any) were successfully indexed by Evernote?

patnpm · 09-13-2008, 03:56 AM

The page allows you to search - the search box is in the upper right hand corner and you can see what it recognises.

zerospinboson · 09-25-2008, 06:18 PM

given that using the iLiad as your CF card reader frequently results in the FS of the CF card corrupting, might it be a good idea to remove this as a 'feature' from the list?

nekokami · 09-26-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patnpm

The page allows you to search - the search box is in the upper right hand corner and you can see what it recognises.

I just tried that. Wow. Pretty impressive. I'm going to try uploading some of my notes from my iLiad today, I think.

eyp · 02-12-2009, 02:55 AM

Why all this software is not stored or linked in Openiliad.com?

Sheikspeare · 08-05-2009, 10:26 PM

What are the main differences between the first and second edition of the Iliad? Thanks!

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07-06-2008, 01:47 PM	#16
Utahcowboy Connoisseur Posts: 52 Karma: 52 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Cybook Gen3	I have a question too. I am considering buying an illiad but I have some questions. 1. Can you only annotate pdf files? 2. How big can you make the font size in other file formats? (I don't see very well, thats why I am asking) 3. How quick is the response time in flipping pages and cycling through menus compared with other ebook devices? 4. Seeing as you can write and draw pictures on a note pad, can you then attach these files to other document formats? 5. Does it support pull down menus? I am asking these questions because I believe I made a mistake in buying my Cybook because it is slow and relatively featureless. I got it because I knew that I could make the font big enough to read.

07-06-2008, 02:11 PM	#17
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	iLiad is no faster than CyBook Gen3

07-06-2008, 11:19 PM	#19
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	I haven't noticed any particular slowness in page turns with FBreader, only in PDFs. The pictures you draw in notes are stored as PNG files. You can't attach them to anything on the iLiad itself, but you can embed them in other documents (I've done this in OpenOffice documents).

09-03-2008, 04:19 AM	#20
renushan Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2008 Device: ONYX BOOX M92	Dear Iliad enthusiasts, I am Renu, one lucky girl. My kid brother bought me Sony PRS-500 a year ago, and my big brother is sending me Iliad in a few days! I request you to answer a query of mine. My mother-tongue is Tamil and I have a few Tamil books scanned. There are no good Tamil OCRs available. I used PDFLRFWIN utility to format the scanned pdf for Sony. I searched through the net, and I found that there is no such utility that automatically crops and reflows scanned PDFs. (PDFLRFWIN cuts the page into Sony size and attaches the left over with next page, then cuts the next page and so on). I tried with PDFCROPPER, it crops, but does not reflow the document. I am no programmer, and cannot work with scripts. Can any of you please suggest me a utility similar to PDFLRFWIN for Iliad? Thank you.

09-04-2008, 02:48 PM	#22
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	You might want to try viewing the PDF on the iLiad in "continuous" mode as-is, to see if it is readable. Zoom in to eliminate margins. If that's not enough, try landscape/continuous mode. I think most texts would be readable this way. The only ones I find difficult are multi-column pages (you want one of the column iPDF solutions for that).

09-05-2008, 03:48 PM	#23
renushan Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2008 Device: ONYX BOOX M92	Thank you friends for the prompt replies and wonderful suggestions. I will try these on my Iliad and get back to you. It should arrive today or tomorrow, and I am quite excited about that. Yes, wallcraft, pdflrfwin outputs lrf only. Yes again, you are right, what I want is to "re-piece" the pages and not reflow them.

09-12-2008, 02:46 PM	#24
patnpm Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005	As far as the note attachments go, something I got very excited about was that they are very easily imported into Evernote (www.evernote.com) which will subject them to OCR (for free) and catalogue all your notes in a searchable, online database - an example note here http://www.evernote.com/pub/patnpm/public Although I accept that if you aren't already an Evernote user this might be rather a niche use.

09-13-2008, 03:56 AM	#26
patnpm Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2005	The page allows you to search - the search box is in the upper right hand corner and you can see what it recognises.

09-25-2008, 06:18 PM	#27
zerospinboson "Assume a can opener..." Posts: 755 Karma: 1942109 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Local Cluster Device: iLiad v2, DR1000	given that using the iLiad as your CF card reader frequently results in the FS of the CF card corrupting, might it be a good idea to remove this as a 'feature' from the list?

02-12-2009, 02:55 AM	#29
eyp Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Madrid/Spain Device: iPad 3G 64GB	Why all this software is not stored or linked in Openiliad.com?

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08-05-2009, 10:26 PM	#30
Sheikspeare Groupie Posts: 181 Karma: 290 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: PR-505 / Kindle DX	What are the main differences between the first and second edition of the Iliad? Thanks!