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09-23-2023, 02:14 PM | #18 |
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Nope, IIRC when they used "update_kindle_%build_number%" naming template different Kindle models never had the exact same build number. The same build number for all still supported Kindle models on v5.x branch started somewhere around v5.7.x IIRC.
Not 100% sure but I think that in early days of Kindle Touch (= first model that was on v5.x branch of Kindle firmware) firmware updates weren't in form of a complete filesystem images but instead used a file patching mechanism similar to how things used to work in Kindle 2 and Kindle 3 days?? |
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I added a line for FW 5.9.6.1 running on PW3.
The reason for PW3 is that the jailbreak is specific to the PW3. The form of jailbreak was common for a number of years and required installing a factory testing form of the firmware which typically included tools that facilitated the jailbreak. I also did not make a link to the amazon supplied firmware. I'm just not comfortable editing text that is essentially software inside a web page dialogue window. I hope that having a separate line for a subset of models that run a firmware version does not violate a requirement for this wiki page. I couldn't figure out the color code so I made it cyan. Feel free to correct the color. When I go to the google sheet the resulting web page is not scrollable. Maybe that is keepting me away from documentation. |
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Thanks for doing this.
I have one small nit pick: Kindle Scribe is referenced as Kindle Scribe (1st Generation), so nominally it is not an 11th generation Kindle. Amazon wants us to think of it as a separate product line in the way Apple has different generations for different iPad models. |
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When a cell has a lot of text, I suggest putting most of that text in a note outside the main table.
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I will go with whatever LostOnTheLine decides, but I think the nickname from the Kindle Serial Number page should be used instead of or in addition to generation, especially given the jailbreak orientation of this table.. Personally, I am confused by references like Paperwhite 10th and usually have neither the time nor the inclination to chase it down. |
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FWIW, we didn't go with the "generation" number, because, historically, it used to differ depending on the market... So, an US generation might not have been the same EU generation .
I *think* that's mostly settled down by now, but, there you have it. (I also can't make heads nor tails of it myself). |
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So for me, mainly a Paperwhite user, particularly with a couple PW1 with 3G(5th Gen) & a couple PW3 (7th Gen) & around the time the PW5 (11th Gen) we're coming out I learned that using the 5th Gen was the easiest way to find relevant information because "Paperwhite 3" searches will turn up everything that has 3G & made the results hard to search through, but "Paperwhite 5th" gave me a pretty solid accuracy for results, with a few with things like "the 5th generation of the Paperwhite", but not much else. It was also a MUCH better way to sort because the 10th Gen Paperwhite, Kindle, Oasis, etc are all contemporary devices, they came out around the same time & generally have an even distribution of variance between models, where a "2022 Kindle" & a "Paperwhite 3" are very nearly the same device. But with the Generation you know where it stands in rank amongst all the things of the same Generation. & there are things that came out in different years in the same generation & most likely there have been or will be ones that come out in the same year that are part of different Generations. & Even using the short nicknames those are inconsistent & haphazard, with certain models having different names for the same model released in different countries or with different features, even though from a user prospective, with updates, firmware, capabilities of the software, etc. they are the same. Not to mention the fact that those Short Names are used outside of here less than half the time.
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As far as not editing the link, no worries, it's easy enough to do. I appreciate the contribution, if someone has some information but not everything it's still helpful to add what they have & eventually those who have other information can fill it in. That particularly is easy enough to add if I have the model it's for & the firmware number. Quote:
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But as far as those short names go Outside this community I pretty much never see them used at all. It's almost always "Paperwhite (2020)" or "Paperwhite (10th Gen)" or "Paperwhite 4". I can't in good conscience make a table that will be maybe slightly less confusing for specifically people who have spent a bunch of time here but more confusing for anyone who hasn't. & if I have to choose 1 way of Identifying it it'll be the unified way that Amazon does in things like the Firmware Page & Source Code page, & Only really going outside that to make outliers conform to the standard everything else has. Quote:
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Interesting Discovery. I found a Firmware that isn't in the `Source Code Notice` list but I can confirm is downloadable & exists.
5.14.3 for PW3 I also have seen references to 5.11.1 & 5.10.3 but neither of those are on the list either, so it looks like the List isn't the be-all-end-all after all. But it definitely saved a lot of work & has things I'd likely never have found otherwise. |
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It's probably because I don't allow google cookies or javascript on google pages. I also avoid google sites unless there is a compelling reason to go there. Could you temporarily attach a copy of the sheet to one of your posts? I uderstand the whole idea is cloud collaboration, but I can't participate in that when the host is google. |
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