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How many computers have been compromised, and how much personal information has been stolen over an internet connection compared to being "listened to" over an Alexa device? My bet is that orders of magnitude more personal data is stolen over standard telephones and cellphones than is stolen over Alexa voice connections.
The possibility of loosing personal information is there - both for a basic internet connection and for an Alexa device. There are ways to mitigate both, but neither is 100% secure. Have you seen any reports of identity theft or bank accounts getting hacked due to a data leak over an Alexa voice connection? Of course it's theoretically possible, especially if you're in the habit of calling out account numbers, passwords, social security numbers, etc. as you walk around your house talking. Do you not admit that it is also theoretically possible for a hacker to get this information over an internet connection plugged into a computer? To call into question one path (Alexa) but not the other (internet connection) is terribly naive. I agree that one should do their best to secure both. And on top of that, don't do stupid stuff - like reciting your social security number next to a microphone, or downloading software from questionable websites. Either type of behavior is going to bypass security norms (not to mention common sense norms) and get you into trouble. |
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Personally I'm happy this division is losing money. The notion that privacy is "no big deal" and it's "just peachy" to be spied on, is a dangerous retreat from Constitutional freedom, in my opinion. And what corporations say they will do with this with the conversations they collect and what they actually do do with them can often be completely different. Corporations often lie and/or arbitrarily change their license agreements in midstream. And there's a difference between targeting a specific computer for information and the routine recording and storing of everything you say and do — and then providing that information to government officials upon request.
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Amazon Basics does make electronic devices as well as non-electronic devices.
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Amazon Basics covers a massive range of products, from computer mice, to dog food bowls, to bed sheets, to batteries, to chairs, to panties.
Even the most die hard Amazon zealot would be hard pressed to believe Amazon invented, or even innovated, in most or all of these fields. It is the equivalent to the "store brand", a generic version of a product, made at low cost so that the price savings can be passed on to the consumer to undercut the name brands. And before the Amazon defenders jump on this, I'm not passing judgement, it's been a practice before Amazon was a thing, it's been a practice since before Bezos was alive. This is just Amazon utilizing its position to sell a generic product of which they get the whole of the profits (or a very large share), vs whatever they have worked out with other sellers. I'd be very surprised if Amazon Basics was contributing to the 5 billion in losses, since its whole premise is a low cost low reward system because there's no risk on the products, people need them, and there's no R&D going into them, just replication of an existing product and slapping "amazon basics" on it. |
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You have to be careful when buying Amazon Basics electronic devices. I think they are all probably made in China, where when they say "UL approved", that means "Undertakers Laboratories approved".
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