07-23-2011, 12:33 AM | #16 |
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the physical space ebooks save makes them worth their salt and qualifies them as its own entity instead of just a pbook companion.
also the advanced font rendering and sizing and the pearl screens push them past pbooks IMHO. Last edited by Ditchleyportrait; 07-23-2011 at 12:47 AM. |
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Can't say I disagree with the wishful thinking behind the OP's post, but indeed, these guys have hit the nail on the head as far as I am concerned. Ripping an audio CD takes 2-30 minutes. Scanning Stephen King's Dark Tower series? Clear your calendar. But 100% agree with pidgeon92 - there is nothing to prevent me from scanning [and proofing and converting and formatting] any of my thousands of physical books, same as with ripping my thousands of CDs/records/tapes. |
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07-23-2011, 09:47 AM | #18 |
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I don't expect to get a physical copy for free when I buy a digital file, or vice versa, but I would happily pay more for a package that offered both, especially for favorite backlist titles.
I have tattered paperbacks that I would like to replace; some have been reissued in the last few years in both hard copy and digital form. I chose to buy e-book versions for (mostly) $12.99 apiece; the trade paper reissues were about the same price, so replacing those as well would have cost me about $25 for each title. I absolutely would have purchased a bundle for, say, $20. The publisher gets more money from me, I'm happy I get a discount--why not offer the package deal as an option? |
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Physical CD off the shelf, no. Legally fully within your right to create your own CD, but that boils back down to the issue as before. You have to do it yourself. |
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That's because your question was rather ridiculous. "If you buy an mp3 album should you get the CD for free?" It's not what we are talking about all and you should be able to see the flaw in your reasoning almost immediately.
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Well if someone has made the eBook already and I download that, why is that any worse than if I created my own e-book? Are we suggesting that having to perform the labor of the media's creation legitimizes its ownership? |
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I don't mind having to buy a new copy so much as I mind the high price (often more than the original pbook cost) not to mention the DRM which as it is restricts the reader from having a back up copy that isn't on the seller's server. I mean even if incidents like with 1984 are rare they can still happen. If the prices came down to a more reasonable level and the DRM was changed to a personalized watermark rather than restricting the readers ability to read a book to just one unit I'd be happy.
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Do people not understand that the only reason publishers turned books into ebooks was to sell them? Offering the ebook version for free makes zero sense for the seller, unless they also sell hardware to read them. Publishers don't make any ereaders I'm aware of.
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Its your right to "format shift"( in some countries its illegal to do even that) for the purpose of archiving the work or for listening/watching/reading it in a way you could not in its original format. that means you do the work. you're asking to buy it once - hard cover- and saying you have a right then to any subsequent version they produce. ludicrous. Why limit your self to getting just the digital version for free? maybe when you buy the paper version you should get the digital, audiobook and graphic novel versions free as well. and the digital version of the graphic novel. maybe because you bought the VHS version of Bambi years ago you should get the BluRay version for free? It is the right of the people who produce the work to offer a package like that. I bought a couple of CD compilations in the last couple years that also including links/codes to download the mp3 versions and some videos etc. I paid more than for the CDs alone set but less than I chose to buy the the CDs and MP3 versions seperately. |
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