Amazon and DRM changes - Page 147

SomeSteve · 07-30-2023, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelKindle

I have correct time and latest firmware, serial no., Amazon password and phone no. (which they ask for) but they do not send the code per email to register.

It appears that sometimes they send the code to your phone.

Take a look at this thread ("Can't register Kindle Touch"):

https://www.amazonforum.com/s/questi...r-kindle-touch

MichaelKindle · 07-31-2023, 10:37 AM

I guess I put this is the wrong thread. Others have had this problem: here. After reading there I tried registering again putting the OTP (from phone) directly after the password (no spaces). This worked. However, although I read here somewhere that the old Kindles would not download the new DRM (2023), this is not true. I can download read the new book to the old and new Kindle (both registered to me), but neither "version" is viewable in Calibre after uploading and bring the message "This book is locked by DRM."

MichaelKindle · 07-31-2023, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeSteve

It appears that sometimes they send the code to your phone.

Take a look at this thread ("Can't register Kindle Touch"):

https://www.amazonforum.com/s/questi...r-kindle-touch

Yes, thanks, wrote below before seeing your note. I managed to register the Touch, but the DRM is still there as far as Calibre is concerned.

Quoth · 07-31-2023, 11:22 AM

Books bought outright:
Download only from Amazon Website, don't copy from a Kindle.
Copy & paste the registered Serial ID of the Kindle into the plug-in from Git nodrm.

pdurrant · 07-31-2023, 11:33 AM

Detailed DRM removal help should not be given on MobileRead. Thanks.

Sirtel · 07-31-2023, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelKindle

I guess I put this is the wrong thread. Others have had this problem: here. After reading there I tried registering again putting the OTP (from phone) directly after the password (no spaces). This worked. However, although I read here somewhere that the old Kindles would not download the new DRM (2023), this is not true. I can download read the new book to the old and new Kindle (both registered to me), but neither "version" is viewable in Calibre after uploading and bring the message "This book is locked by DRM."

Old Kindle apps would not download new books. Not old Kindles.

As to your inability to remove the DRM even with a registered Kindle Touch, obviously you haven't customized the plugin. Can't give more detailed help here.

lkmiller · 08-01-2023, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelKindle

I guess I put this is the wrong thread. Others have had this problem: here. After reading there I tried registering again putting the OTP (from phone) directly after the password (no spaces). This worked. However, although I read here somewhere that the old Kindles would not download the new DRM (2023), this is not true. I can download read the new book to the old and new Kindle (both registered to me), but neither "version" is viewable in Calibre after uploading and bring the message "This book is locked by DRM."

With the Kindle Touch, you cannot receive the new kfx format which has the newer DRM. If you have things configured correctly, you will have no problem removing DRM from books downloaded directly to your Touch. Ask at noDRM's GitHub if you're still having issues.

Quoth · 08-01-2023, 09:55 AM

Today my Waterfox Browser wouldn't work to download an ebook I'd just bought. However Firefox worked.

MichaelKindle · 08-02-2023, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

Detailed DRM removal help should not be given on MobileRead. Thanks.

Why not? As far as I know and have read elsewhere, it is not illegal to remove DRM for your own use (such as allowing Amazon-purchased books to be read on a reader other than Kindle), so why should it be "wrong" to offer help? Why did you post this comment?

Leseratte_10 · 08-02-2023, 09:06 AM

While in most juristictions it's not illegal to remove DRM for personal use, it can be illegal in some jurisdictions to provide detailed instructions to the public, and the owners / operators of mobileread just decided that they don't want to risk getting sued.

And he posted that comment because he's a moderator and people were giving detailed DRM removal explainations.

MichaelKindle · 08-02-2023, 09:53 AM

In what "jurisdictions" -- or is that top secret too? There are other websites that give dedrm instructions, and at least one that charges for it (epubor.com). Furthermore, the instructions have already been published here. In the meantime I have succeeded in uploading a Calibre-readable 2023 book to Calibre, but I will not repeat the "instructions" since I don't want to do anything "wrong." This is more than irritating, it's maddening!

Many thanks nevertheless to all those who have helped and many more to all those who are continuing to fight Big Brother's attempt to restrict our digital rights and property, which is exactly the opposite of "progress."

lkmiller · 08-02-2023, 10:36 AM

It is a MobileRead site policy and Paul is a moderator here. Detailed help can be given over at the GitHub if you're still having problems.

monoxdd · 08-02-2023, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelKindle

In what "jurisdictions" -- or is that top secret too? There are other websites that give dedrm instructions, and at least one that charges for it (epubor.com). Furthermore, the instructions have already been published here. In the meantime I have succeeded in uploading a Calibre-readable 2023 book to Calibre, but I will not repeat the "instructions" since I don't want to do anything "wrong." This is more than irritating, it's maddening!

Many thanks nevertheless to all those who have helped and many more to all those who are continuing to fight Big Brother's attempt to restrict our digital rights and property, which is exactly the opposite of "progress."

So go to another web.

DiapDealer · 08-02-2023, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelKindle

There are other websites that give dedrm instructions,

And that is their right. As it is Mobileread's right to not allow detailed drm removal instructions/discussions.

Ma'am-I-Am · 08-02-2023, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelKindle

Why not? As far as I know and have read elsewhere, it is not illegal to remove DRM for your own use (such as allowing Amazon-purchased books to be read on a reader other than Kindle), so why should it be "wrong" to offer help? Why did you post this comment?

I kind of have to agree. It's just lip service considering what one can find here. As for "jurisdictions" mentioned, I'd think it's the users who are accountable - not Mobileread. It's just information.

Having said that, you can always try PMing someone.

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07-31-2023, 10:37 AM	#2192
MichaelKindle Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2023 Device: Kindle 5.11.1.1	I guess I put this is the wrong thread. Others have had this problem: here. After reading there I tried registering again putting the OTP (from phone) directly after the password (no spaces). This worked. However, although I read here somewhere that the old Kindles would not download the new DRM (2023), this is not true. I can download read the new book to the old and new Kindle (both registered to me), but neither "version" is viewable in Calibre after uploading and bring the message "This book is locked by DRM."

07-31-2023, 11:22 AM	#2194
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,344 Karma: 92073397 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	Books bought outright: Download only from Amazon Website, don't copy from a Kindle. Copy & paste the registered Serial ID of the Kindle into the plug-in from Git nodrm.

07-31-2023, 11:33 AM	#2195
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 72,502 Karma: 309060442 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Voyage	Detailed DRM removal help should not be given on MobileRead. Thanks.

08-01-2023, 09:55 AM	#2198
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,344 Karma: 92073397 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	Today my Waterfox Browser wouldn't work to download an ebook I'd just bought. However Firefox worked.

08-02-2023, 09:06 AM	#2200
Leseratte_10 Groupie Posts: 182 Karma: 2010542 Join Date: Sep 2021 Device: PB Era, PB InkPad 3 Pro	While in most juristictions it's not illegal to remove DRM for personal use, it can be illegal in some jurisdictions to provide detailed instructions to the public, and the owners / operators of mobileread just decided that they don't want to risk getting sued. And he posted that comment because he's a moderator and people were giving detailed DRM removal explainations.

08-02-2023, 09:53 AM	#2201
MichaelKindle Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2023 Device: Kindle 5.11.1.1	In what "jurisdictions" -- or is that top secret too? There are other websites that give dedrm instructions, and at least one that charges for it (epubor.com). Furthermore, the instructions have already been published here. In the meantime I have succeeded in uploading a Calibre-readable 2023 book to Calibre, but I will not repeat the "instructions" since I don't want to do anything "wrong." This is more than irritating, it's maddening! Many thanks nevertheless to all those who have helped and many more to all those who are continuing to fight Big Brother's attempt to restrict our digital rights and property, which is exactly the opposite of "progress."

08-02-2023, 10:36 AM	#2202
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,368 Karma: 22770108 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	It is a MobileRead site policy and Paul is a moderator here. Detailed help can be given over at the GitHub if you're still having problems.

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