MobileRead Forums
Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > News
Reload this Page New version of DRM removal tools ("DeDRM")

Notices

Reply
Page 126 of 126 « First 122123124125 126
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-18-2024, 02:30 PM   #1876
j.p.s
Grand Sorcerer
j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.j.p.s ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 5,531
Karma: 100606001
Join Date: Apr 2011
Device: pb360
That should undercut any excuse for continued application of DRM to KFX versions of "publisher requested no DRM" books.
j.p.s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2024, 04:52 PM   #1877
Quoth
the rook, bossing Never.
Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Quoth's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,368
Karma: 92073397
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
Quote:
Originally Posted by j.p.s View Post
That should undercut any excuse for continued application of DRM to KFX versions of "publisher requested no DRM" books.
Yes, they can't have it both ways.
Quoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 03-18-2024, 04:59 PM   #1878
Quoth
the rook, bossing Never.
Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Quoth's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,368
Karma: 92073397
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratinox View Post
Legally, no. DRM -- digital rights management -- has a specific legal meaning and specific laws based on that legal definition. An obfuscated, proprietary file/container format does not meet the criteria for DRM. You could easily make a case for such a thing like KFX being anti-competitive and monopolistic but these issues are entirely separate from DRM issues.
That's what Amazon's lawyers would argue. But if it walks and quacks like a duck? Also see comment about "personal documents".

Why no easy to use local converter from pdf/doc/docx/mobi/epub/azw3 to KFX on Mac/iOS/Android/Windows/Linux?
Why do you have to send pdocs to Amazon? Can we have a 3rd party audit of what they do with those user docs which might private, copyright, secret or whatever?

You can even run local copies of an LLM.
Quoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2024, 05:17 PM   #1879
ownedbycats
Custom User Title
ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
ownedbycats's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,571
Karma: 64960981
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Canada
Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quoth View Post
Yes, they can't have it both ways.
False advertising at least.
ownedbycats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2024, 05:54 PM   #1880
ApK
Award-Winning Participant
ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ApK ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 7,355
Karma: 68329346
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NJ, USA
Device: Kindle
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quoth View Post
Why do you have to send pdocs to Amazon? Can we have a 3rd party audit of what they do with those user docs which might private, copyright, secret or whatever?

Don't send anything to any cloud system if you don't want the owners of the cloud seeing it. That just general privacy advice...IOW, if you want to keep something private, don't send it to other people. Especially people on the Internet. In this case, I'd convert with Calibre and side-load via USB cable.
Last edited by ApK; 03-18-2024 at 05:57 PM.
ApK is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 03-18-2024, 06:17 PM   #1881
Quoth
the rook, bossing Never.
Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Quoth ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Quoth's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,368
Karma: 92073397
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
Quote:
Originally Posted by ApK View Post
Don't send anything to any cloud system if you don't want the owners of the cloud seeing it. That just general privacy advice...IOW, if you want to keep something private, don't send it to other people. Especially people on the Internet. In this case, I'd convert with Calibre and side-load via USB cable.
That's what I do. Fortunately I don't need KFX. Calibre doesn't convert it. The plug-in uses an Amazon program unavailable on most OSes. I read everything as epub or PDF, with epub preferred.
Quoth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2024, 08:27 PM   #1882
ratinox
Fanatic
ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ratinox ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 563
Karma: 5707104
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Somewhere in Time
Device: Forma, iPad Mini
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quoth View Post
That's what Amazon's lawyers would argue. But if it walks and quacks like a duck? Also see comment about "personal documents".
I think you're conflating DRM with copy protection. All DRM is copy protection, but not all copy protection is DRM.

Quote:
Why no easy to use local converter from pdf/doc/docx/mobi/epub/azw3 to KFX on Mac/iOS/Android/Windows/Linux?
To stifle competition. The way they want us to see it, you didn't buy that Kindle reader, you bought a license to use it. Similarly, you didn't buy those books, you bought licenses to read them on Amazon-approved devices and software. Having an onerous, proprietary tool to let us make our own KFX files lets them get away with locking out competition without appearing to be a monopoly: "We're not locking out customers. See? They can convert anything they want to read on their Kindle."

(see what I did there?)
ratinox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2024, 04:28 AM   #1883
rantanplan
Weirdo
rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.rantanplan ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 720
Karma: 9081544
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Wuppertal, Germany
Device: Tolino Shine Color, Tolino Vision 6, Kobo Clara 2E, Boox Note Air 2+
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratinox View Post
To stifle competition. The way they want us to see it, you didn't buy that Kindle reader, you bought a license to use it. Similarly, you didn't buy those books, you bought licenses to read them on Amazon-approved devices and software. Having an onerous, proprietary tool to let us make our own KFX files lets them get away with locking out competition without appearing to be a monopoly: "We're not locking out customers. See? They can convert anything they want to read on their Kindle."

(see what I did there?)
And it seems to be that the market is just too small for the EU legislators to care :-/
rantanplan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2024, 03:03 AM   #1884
Sundy
Junior Member
Sundy began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Feb 2023
Device: ONYX BOOX Nova 3
Is there a new updated version of the plugin that handles the new Readium LCP 2.5?
Sundy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2024, 03:28 AM   #1885
ownedbycats
Custom User Title
ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.ownedbycats ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
ownedbycats's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,571
Karma: 64960981
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Canada
Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundy View Post
Is there a new updated version of the plugin that handles the new Readium LCP 2.5?
No. Readium sent a DMCA so they removed support to avoid losing the entire repo.
ownedbycats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2024, 04:07 AM   #1886
Sundy
Junior Member
Sundy began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Feb 2023
Device: ONYX BOOX Nova 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by ownedbycats View Post
No. Readium sent a DMCA so they removed support to avoid losing the entire repo.
Thanks for the reply. Still, I hope a way is found so I can use my reader instead of the crappy app that comes bundled with purchased books.
Sundy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2024, 04:47 AM   #1887
Aleron Ives
Wizard
Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Aleron Ives ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,435
Karma: 16297052
Join Date: Sep 2022
Device: Kobo Libra 2
You can probably still find the old version floating around somewhere, but if Readium has released a new version of LCP that DeDRM never supported, you probably won't ever be able to decrypt it, since nobody is working on that code anymore, AFAIK. The only solution at present is only to buy books that you can decrypt.
Aleron Ives is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2024, 05:55 AM   #1888
mitra1
Zealot
mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.mitra1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 108
Karma: 2086978
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Roma, Italia
Device: kindle oasis 2,ONYX boox max lumi
I was reading this. And it seems that at least in America it's now fully legal the project of NoDrm.
https://www.eff.org/it/press/release...ent-eff-argues
mitra1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2024, 06:48 AM   #1889
foosion
Evangelist
foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.foosion is an enigma wrapped up in a mystery.
 
Posts: 450
Karma: 41524
Join Date: Sep 2011
Device: Kobo Libra 2 & Clara BW
Quote:
Originally Posted by mitra1 View Post
I was reading this. And it seems that at least in America it's now fully legal the project of NoDrm.
https://www.eff.org/it/press/release...ent-eff-argues
The EFF is arguing that such things are fully legal in an effort to challenge a law and court decisions that say the opposite. Have they won the appeal?
foosion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2024, 08:20 AM   #1890
jhowell
Grand Sorcerer
jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.jhowell ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
jhowell's Avatar
 
Posts: 6,753
Karma: 86500093
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Device: Kindles
Quote:
Originally Posted by foosion View Post
The EFF is arguing that such things are fully legal in an effort to challenge a law and court decisions that say the opposite. Have they won the appeal?
As far as I can tell the EFF has lost. See Matthew Green v. DOJ, No. 23-5159 (D.C. Cir. 2024) from earlier this month.

Perhaps they will appeal again to a higher court but for now the DMCA is still the law in the USA.
jhowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 126 of 126 « First 122123124125 126

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DeDRM failure to remove DRM from a rented book? Aquinax Plugins 2 03-24-2017 03:38 PM
DeDRM Tools - confused ChipAHoy Reading and Management 3 10-08-2016 02:16 AM
Need DeDRM Tool to Remove Foreign Ebook DRM CrossReach Plugins 2 08-04-2016 07:04 PM
Shadow version of Calibre GUI with deDRM capabilities? daviddem Calibre 40 11-07-2009 09:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:29 AM.

Contact Us - FAQ - Guidelines - Privacy - Top

MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.