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It looks like it. And it definitely feels like it (by them prohibiting kindlepid.py). But is it really what they are after? I have my doubts. They must have known about this tool for a long time, and they didn't bother to intervene. No, what they are really after is to prevent people from finding ways to exploit the iPhone Kindle app. And kindlepid.py is a small part of the equation.
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It is interesting that the actual software in question is still available from its original source. So either eBlogger is slower to respond to Amazon's "request" than mobileread, or Amazon will need to send an actual DMCA takedown notice for the software to be removed. At that point Igor will be able to respond. I'm not sure I would advise him to do so, but I would contribute to a legal fund to fight the takedown. |
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I kind of want to send an email to Sony saying "thanks for not being this way, and I'm hiking my purchasing from $40 to $50 a month on the bookstore to support you more."
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You need a Kindle PID (or Kindle App PID) to strip DRM from books bought from Amazon.
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![]() Please, the fact that someone at Amazon is evidently experiencing a rectal-cranial fusion incident, resulting in the development of an intra-colonic perspective on things, is no reason to descend to the use of such language. ![]() |
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In fact, you must have a mobi PID to buy from Mobipocket at all, and you can get one from the Mobipocket desktop software. More and more it seems that this isn't about preserving the DRM, but rather about preserving Amazon's lock-in efforts. |
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Like I said, I know that a lot of people don't agree with that, and that's OK. I'm informed at least and making a decision based on my own preferences, and wouldn't tell others to do the same unless they had all the facts as well. |
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the removal of the SD card slot in the K2 regards to this. I keep all of my non-Amazon content on my SD card in my K1 and remove the card when I connect to whispernet. As far as I can tell, the information regarding where I am, and what books I'm reading, from my SD card is kept on the card with the books. I do really like the Kindle, but I don't want to be restricted to only Amazon content, nor do I need Big Brother keeping tabs on my other reading habits. It would be a shame to have a Kindle, and then not being able to access all the book Samples by not using whispernet in order to keep Amazon from spying on you.
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Apple isn't the best example, primarily because they were about the only company that was providing a DRM-based music product. When Amazon provided DRM-free versions of the same songs being sold with DRM on iTunes, we saw that the decision wasn't solely based on the music producers. Even then, you could make versions of the iTunes DRM-music for playing on any device, and rip CDs, legally, to put on iTunes. In this case, what Amazon is saying, in effect, is that the company is not allowing DRM-protected books purchased elsewhere on the Kindle. If we're using an Apple analogy, it would be same as saying you can only use Apple created software on a Mac. Now, does that sound reasonable to you? The tool does not crack or remove the DRM. It does not violate copyright. It allows owners of legally purchased books to read those books on their legally purchased reading devices. No where does it enable one to make DRM-free versions of the book for streaming on Pirate Bay. It's really equivalent to being able to buy MP3 music at Amazon, and be able to load it into itunes, and hence to our iPods. If Steve Jobs came out with his lawyers and told people no, you can't play your Amazon purchased music on our music devices, would you be as quick to defend Apple? Last edited by shelleyp; 03-12-2009 at 07:31 PM. |
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![]() Today I found some information about a book I'm interested in online. Normally my next step would be to go check the price at Amazon. I went to the B&N site instead (though I'll also check Powell's, of course). Unfortunately, I already paid my "Prime" membership this year, but I just turned off auto-renewal. Maybe if enough of us do that, it will start to send a message. I've bought my textbooks from Amazon for the past few years, as well as other incidental books not available as ebooks. That's a fair piece of change. That business will be going elsewhere until/unless this is resolved. Edit: I just realized that my Prime membership had renewed on March 10, and nobody had used it yet... so I cancelled it. |
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Having perused this thread thoroughly, I have duly and forthwith expunged the kindle from my list of choices for my next ebook reader purchase and certainly cannot, in good conscience recommend it to others.
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