Reference Alcoholics Anonymous: Big Book, v.1, 29 October 2008.

Patricia · 10-28-2008, 10:26 PM

This is the key text of Alcoholics Anonymous, and was a seminal work in the development of 12-step programmes to treat addictions.

Copyright etc.
The current edition of this book is the fourth one. It is under copyright. You may read it online at http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/ . It is in a mix of html and protected PDF. However, the first two editions did not have their copyright renewed in the U.S. I cite evidence below. The eleven core chapters are the same, as far as I can see. However, the personal stories were updated with new stories in later editions, as were the appendices. There is no ebook available of the third or fourth edition; not even for ready money. There are people trying to sell this title as an ebook, but all versions emanate from the source that I have used. Given that I have spent some time cleaning up formatting and OCR errors, I believe mine is actually better. I made it because a forum member was interested in having a copy.

Both these sites argue that the U.S copyright of the first edition was not renewed:
See:
http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/
and
http://alcoholism.about.com/library/weekly/aa990825.htm
The following site makes it clear that the U.S. copyright has expired for both the first and the second edition: http://anonpress.org/faq/files/read.asp?fID=239
And this hostile site argues that the original copyright was invalid and that neither the first nor second editions had their copyright renewed. http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-bigbook.html

triwy · 05-03-2009, 07:11 PM

Hello Patricia, I would like to download the Big Book but when i follow the link I do not find it...what do I do wrong? Can you help? thanks a lot,
Triwy

zelda_pinwheel · 05-03-2009, 07:16 PM

hi triwy, the link to download the book is in the readme file. download that, and follow the link.

triwy · 05-06-2009, 09:17 PM

Hello Zelda, thanks a lot. I have the big book on my desktop now. I have received my Cybook today. Tomorrow I will try to put the big Book on the Cybook.....! Merci, a bien tot!
Triwy

zelda_pinwheel · 05-06-2009, 09:20 PM

i'm glad you got it sorted out.

enjoy your cybook !

triwy · 05-08-2009, 06:59 AM

Thanks, I love the Cybbok, it the best thing I bought from ages....I was thinking how lucky we are to live in 2009....300 years ago ordinary people could not even read as we do not.......we are so lucky.
God bless you.

zelda_pinwheel · 05-09-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triwy

Thanks, I love the Cybbok, it the best thing I bought from ages....I was thinking how lucky we are to live in 2009....300 years ago ordinary people could not even read as we do not.......we are so lucky.
God bless you.

i think we all feel that way about our readers !

enjoy.

10-28-2008, 10:26 PM	#1
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	Alcoholics Anonymous: Big Book, v.1, 29 October 2008. This is the key text of Alcoholics Anonymous, and was a seminal work in the development of 12-step programmes to treat addictions. Copyright etc. The current edition of this book is the fourth one. It is under copyright. You may read it online at http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/ . It is in a mix of html and protected PDF. However, the first two editions did not have their copyright renewed in the U.S. I cite evidence below. The eleven core chapters are the same, as far as I can see. However, the personal stories were updated with new stories in later editions, as were the appendices. There is no ebook available of the third or fourth edition; not even for ready money. There are people trying to sell this title as an ebook, but all versions emanate from the source that I have used. Given that I have spent some time cleaning up formatting and OCR errors, I believe mine is actually better. I made it because a forum member was interested in having a copy. Both these sites argue that the U.S copyright of the first edition was not renewed: See: http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/ and http://alcoholism.about.com/library/weekly/aa990825.htm The following site makes it clear that the U.S. copyright has expired for both the first and the second edition: http://anonpress.org/faq/files/read.asp?fID=239 And this hostile site argues that the original copyright was invalid and that neither the first nor second editions had their copyright renewed. http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-bigbook.html

05-03-2009, 07:11 PM	#2
triwy Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Cybook	Download Hello Patricia, I would like to download the Big Book but when i follow the link I do not find it...what do I do wrong? Can you help? thanks a lot, Triwy

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05-03-2009, 07:16 PM	#3
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	hi triwy, the link to download the book is in the readme file. download that, and follow the link.

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triwy Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Cybook	Hello Zelda, thanks a lot. I have the big book on my desktop now. I have received my Cybook today. Tomorrow I will try to put the big Book on the Cybook.....! Merci, a bien tot! Triwy

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zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	i'm glad you got it sorted out. enjoy your cybook !

05-08-2009, 06:59 AM	#6
triwy Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Cybook	Thanks, I love the Cybbok, it the best thing I bought from ages....I was thinking how lucky we are to live in 2009....300 years ago ordinary people could not even read as we do not.......we are so lucky. God bless you.