[Privacy Discussion] DeGoogle & Debloat - Root & adb uninstall - Page 8

parkaymang · 11-30-2023, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mergen3107

AFWall+ Settings: Experimental
1) Startup delay (unchecked)
2) Startup directory path for script: /data/adb/post-fs-data.d/
3) Fix startup leak (checked)

This setup makes sure AFWall+ kicks in first, then lets any Wi-Fi connection actually happen after reboot. So you can leave Wi-Fi on before rebooting.

Ok the /data/adb/post-fs-data.d part did it! Thank you very much.

Two questions for you:
1. Do you know any apps to montor/log connections and block based on IP AND DNS that is not VPN based?

2. I noticed some browsers (like fulguris) seem to lose their ability to download when AFWall is on, even with that browser whitelisted. Seems only the ones that rely solely android system download manager (1dm browser, has it's own, and has no problem downloading when whiltelisted). But even whitelisting UID 10044 (download manager etc) doesn't help. Any thoughts on how to solve this?

Thanks again!

mergen3107 · 11-30-2023, 09:38 PM

AFWall+ has the logging capability. Enable logs, then go try your downloads. It will tell which IPs/hosts are trying to connect. Then you decide whether to trust them and enable them.

UID 1000 is tricky, it encapsulates EVERYTHING android-system-related, including those apps that Onyx probably modified.

Download manager has a different UID.
I was using Yandex Browser with download manager on.

I mean, without Download Manager even KOReader cannot update itself.

nomoi · 12-12-2023, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denisuu

Since I rooted the device I have AFwall+ running and blocked almost all traffic. I might enable some of the Onyx apps again and just have them blocked to bring back some functionality.

I tried to autostart it, but each time the device is powered on (i.e. not from sleep mode) it seems AFwall has to be started again. Does autostart work in your setup and if so how did you accomplish it?

nomoi · 12-12-2023, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renate

I've posted this a zillion times already. It's a magnetic reed switch I put in so that I can always get to EDL without opening the case.

Wow, that's a pretty neat idea!

Renate · 12-12-2023, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomoi

Wow, that's a pretty neat idea!

The Poke5 (unlike the Poke3) does respond to an EDL cable.
It's pretty much hit or miss whether a device has the USB D+ checking built in to xbl.
Still, EDL cables will not work if you trashed xbl, although test points will.

sunkashi · 05-09-2024, 06:46 AM

For those, who prefer to not root their device I recommend combination of Rething DNS app for firewall and NextDNS as private DNS. Rething DNS app supports even Wireguard.

You have control over traffic and block whatever you want without rooting device.

Anghirrim · 05-13-2024, 07:24 AM

Interesting topic, thanks!

I just received a Boox Page to play a bit with.... and I was horrified on how much it calls home.

Coming from de-Googled and privacy friendly Android versions (CalyxOS)....it's astonishing.

So far, I'll only go with Blokada first, block little by little the addresses Boox calls home.

"pm disable" did not seem to work that much for example, the voice recorder could still be launched after a pm disable (which went successfully). Only the pm uninstall allowed me to really get rid of it.

denisuu · 08-09-2024, 06:55 AM

For those interested, this is my debloat on update 3.5.3 (7f5c78ff3), I tested it for 2 weeks and it runs stable.

User Installed Packages (5)

Uninstalled system packages (141):

Code:

com.android.apps.tag
com.android.backupconfirm
com.android.bips
com.android.bluetooth
com.android.bluetoothmidiservice
com.android.bookmarkprovider
com.android.calllogbackup
com.android.captiveportallogin
com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver
com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver.module
com.android.cellbroadcastservice
com.android.cts.ctsshim
com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim
com.android.dreams.basic
com.android.dreams.phototable
com.android.egg
com.android.emergency
com.android.hotspot2.osulogin
com.android.inputdevices
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.corner
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.double
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.hole
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.tall
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.waterfall
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_extra_wide_back
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_narrow_back
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_wide_back
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.threebutton
com.android.localtransport
com.android.networkstack.permissionconfig
com.android.networkstack.tethering
com.android.nfc
com.android.pacprocessor
com.android.printservice.recommendation
com.android.protips
com.android.providers.blockednumber
com.android.providers.calendar
com.android.providers.contacts
com.android.providers.downloads.ui
com.android.providers.userdictionary
com.android.proxyhandler
com.android.quicksearchbox
com.android.se
com.android.settings.intelligence
com.android.sharedstoragebackup
com.android.smspush
com.android.soundpicker
com.android.theme.color.amethyst
com.android.theme.color.aquamarine
com.android.theme.color.black
com.android.theme.color.carbon
com.android.theme.color.cinnamon
com.android.theme.color.green
com.android.theme.color.ocean
com.android.theme.color.orchid
com.android.theme.color.palette
com.android.theme.color.purple
com.android.theme.color.sand
com.android.theme.color.space
com.android.theme.color.tangerine
com.android.theme.font.notoserifsource
com.android.theme.icon.pebble
com.android.theme.icon.roundedrect
com.android.theme.icon.squircle
com.android.theme.icon.taperedrect
com.android.theme.icon.teardrop
com.android.theme.icon.vessel
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.themepicker
com.android.vending
com.android.vpndialogs
com.android.wallpaperbackup
com.android.wallpapercropper
com.google.android.apps.restore
com.google.android.configupdater
com.google.android.ext.shared
com.google.android.gms
com.google.android.gms.location.history
com.google.android.gsf
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.common
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.gsa
com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar
com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts
com.google.android.tts
com.onyx.aiassistant
com.onyx.android.ksync
com.onyx.android.onyxotaservice
com.onyx.android.production.test
com.onyx.appmarket
com.onyx.calculator
com.onyx.clock
com.onyx.dict
com.onyx.easytransfer
com.onyx.factorytest
com.onyx.floatingbutton
com.onyx.gallery
com.onyx.igetshop
com.onyx.kime
com.onyx.latinime
com.onyx.mail
com.onyx.musicplayer
com.onyx.voicerecorder
com.qti.service.colorservice
com.qualcomm.embms
com.qualcomm.qti.dynamicddsservice
com.qualcomm.qti.services.systemhelper
com.qualcomm.qti.sva
com.qualcomm.qti.uimGbaApp
com.qualcomm.qti.xrvd.service
com.qualcomm.wfd.service
org.chromium.chrome
vendor.qti.iwlan

Disabled System packages (1):

Code:

com.onyx.kreader

Enabled System packages (29):

Code:

android
android.ext.services
com.android.certinstaller
com.android.companiondevicemanager
com.android.documentsui
com.android.externalstorage
com.android.htmlviewer
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_onyx
com.android.keychain
com.android.location.fused
com.android.modulemetadata
com.android.mtp
com.android.networkstack
com.android.packageinstaller
com.android.permissioncontroller
com.android.providers.downloads
com.android.providers.media
com.android.providers.media.module
com.android.providers.settings
com.android.provision
com.android.settings
com.android.shell
com.android.statementservice
com.android.storagemanager
com.android.systemui
com.android.wifi.resources
com.google.android.webview
com.onyx
com.qualcomm.timeservice

Uninstalling any of these 29 packages causes a bootloop or breaks functionality I need.

Never_Sm1le · 08-11-2024, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denisuu

For those interested, this is my debloat on update 3.5.3 (7f5c78ff3), I tested it for 2 weeks and it runs stable.

User Installed Packages (5)

Uninstalled system packages (141):

Code:

com.android.apps.tag
com.android.backupconfirm
com.android.bips
com.android.bluetooth
com.android.bluetoothmidiservice
com.android.bookmarkprovider
com.android.calllogbackup
com.android.captiveportallogin
com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver
com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver.module
com.android.cellbroadcastservice
com.android.cts.ctsshim
com.android.cts.priv.ctsshim
com.android.dreams.basic
com.android.dreams.phototable
com.android.egg
com.android.emergency
com.android.hotspot2.osulogin
com.android.inputdevices
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.corner
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.double
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.hole
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.tall
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.waterfall
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_extra_wide_back
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_narrow_back
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_wide_back
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.threebutton
com.android.localtransport
com.android.networkstack.permissionconfig
com.android.networkstack.tethering
com.android.nfc
com.android.pacprocessor
com.android.printservice.recommendation
com.android.protips
com.android.providers.blockednumber
com.android.providers.calendar
com.android.providers.contacts
com.android.providers.downloads.ui
com.android.providers.userdictionary
com.android.proxyhandler
com.android.quicksearchbox
com.android.se
com.android.settings.intelligence
com.android.sharedstoragebackup
com.android.smspush
com.android.soundpicker
com.android.theme.color.amethyst
com.android.theme.color.aquamarine
com.android.theme.color.black
com.android.theme.color.carbon
com.android.theme.color.cinnamon
com.android.theme.color.green
com.android.theme.color.ocean
com.android.theme.color.orchid
com.android.theme.color.palette
com.android.theme.color.purple
com.android.theme.color.sand
com.android.theme.color.space
com.android.theme.color.tangerine
com.android.theme.font.notoserifsource
com.android.theme.icon.pebble
com.android.theme.icon.roundedrect
com.android.theme.icon.squircle
com.android.theme.icon.taperedrect
com.android.theme.icon.teardrop
com.android.theme.icon.vessel
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.circular.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.filled.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.kai.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.rounded.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.sam.themepicker
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.android
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.launcher
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.settings
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.systemui
com.android.theme.icon_pack.victor.themepicker
com.android.vending
com.android.vpndialogs
com.android.wallpaperbackup
com.android.wallpapercropper
com.google.android.apps.restore
com.google.android.configupdater
com.google.android.ext.shared
com.google.android.gms
com.google.android.gms.location.history
com.google.android.gsf
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.common
com.google.android.overlay.gmsconfig.gsa
com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar
com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts
com.google.android.tts
com.onyx.aiassistant
com.onyx.android.ksync
com.onyx.android.onyxotaservice
com.onyx.android.production.test
com.onyx.appmarket
com.onyx.calculator
com.onyx.clock
com.onyx.dict
com.onyx.easytransfer
com.onyx.factorytest
com.onyx.floatingbutton
com.onyx.gallery
com.onyx.igetshop
com.onyx.kime
com.onyx.latinime
com.onyx.mail
com.onyx.musicplayer
com.onyx.voicerecorder
com.qti.service.colorservice
com.qualcomm.embms
com.qualcomm.qti.dynamicddsservice
com.qualcomm.qti.services.systemhelper
com.qualcomm.qti.sva
com.qualcomm.qti.uimGbaApp
com.qualcomm.qti.xrvd.service
com.qualcomm.wfd.service
org.chromium.chrome
vendor.qti.iwlan

Disabled System packages (1):

Code:

com.onyx.kreader

Enabled System packages (29):

Code:

android
android.ext.services
com.android.certinstaller
com.android.companiondevicemanager
com.android.documentsui
com.android.externalstorage
com.android.htmlviewer
com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural_onyx
com.android.keychain
com.android.location.fused
com.android.modulemetadata
com.android.mtp
com.android.networkstack
com.android.packageinstaller
com.android.permissioncontroller
com.android.providers.downloads
com.android.providers.media
com.android.providers.media.module
com.android.providers.settings
com.android.provision
com.android.settings
com.android.shell
com.android.statementservice
com.android.storagemanager
com.android.systemui
com.android.wifi.resources
com.google.android.webview
com.onyx
com.qualcomm.timeservice

Uninstalling any of these 29 packages causes a bootloop or breaks functionality I need.

Could you retest this package? com.onyx.floatingbutton (the Onyx floating button). Only my poke5s, disabling this package lead to more battery consumption and longer initial screen refresh

denisuu · 08-13-2024, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Never_Sm1le

Could you retest this package? com.onyx.floatingbutton (the Onyx floating button). Only my poke5s, disabling this package lead to more battery consumption and longer initial screen refresh

I didn’t disable it, I uninstalled it using ADB. The entire package list is uninstalled like with the command below, except for com.onyx.kreader, which is disabled.

Code:

pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.onyx.floatingbutton

trott3r · 08-16-2024, 03:53 AM

thanks for the info.
any noticeable improvement in speed or redposiveness?

denisuu · 08-19-2024, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trott3r

thanks for the info.
any noticeable improvement in speed or redposiveness?

Honestly, I'm not sure because I've uninstalled most of the Onyx packages when I took the device out of the box. It’s possible that the performance and battery life have improved since there are fewer background processes running.

palantiri · 10-31-2024, 06:40 PM

Thanks for this, I've used your debloat post to reduce my Page to what I want, just an e-reader. I've attempted to follow several guides/posts about the process of rooting a Boox. Though i have no experience doing this, I've gotten a patched .img file through magisk and gotten to the fastboot boot ".img".

adb reboot fastboot - no issues
fastboot devices - shows device is connected
fastboot boot boot_patched.img - I renamed the patched file, but when i enter the command it produces a message stating:

FAILED (remote: 'unknown command')
fastboot: error: Command failed

I've also attempted the process starting with:

adb reboot bootloader - fails as well

Should I be using the EDL method to root?

Renate · 10-31-2024, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palantiri

Should I be using the EDL method to root?

Yes. Updated abl's have deprecated useful commands in fastboot.

We're lucky (for now). We can get everything done with EDL.

palantiri · 11-01-2024, 02:21 AM

I'm attempting root using EDL, with Qualcomm662.elf, zadig, and fasboot driver. I'm getting this error:

edl.exe /l662.elf

Found EDL 9008, handshaking... version 2.1
HWID: 0014d0e100000000, JTAG: 0014d0e1, OEM: 0000, Model: 0000
Hash: d40eee56f3194665-574109a39267724a-e7944134cd53cb76-7e293d3c40497955-bc8a4519ff992b03-1fadc6355015ac87 (x3)
Sending 662.elf 100% ok, starting... ok, waiting for Firehose...
<log value="ERROR: Call to ufs_open(0, UFS_WLUN_DEVICE) failed:0" />
Ok

Sorry if this is something obvious, I'll go through the other posts and see if I'm clearly missing something important.

05-09-2024, 06:46 AM	#111
sunkashi Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2024 Device: Onyx Boox Note Air 3	For those, who prefer to not root their device I recommend combination of Rething DNS app for firewall and NextDNS as private DNS. Rething DNS app supports even Wireguard. You have control over traffic and block whatever you want without rooting device. Last edited by sunkashi; 05-09-2024 at 06:50 AM.

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11-30-2023, 09:38 PM	#107
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,332 Karma: 4740000 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	AFWall+ has the logging capability. Enable logs, then go try your downloads. It will tell which IPs/hosts are trying to connect. Then you decide whether to trust them and enable them. UID 1000 is tricky, it encapsulates EVERYTHING android-system-related, including those apps that Onyx probably modified. Download manager has a different UID. I was using Yandex Browser with download manager on. I mean, without Download Manager even KOReader cannot update itself.

05-13-2024, 07:24 AM	#112
Anghirrim Seeking for Graal Posts: 186 Karma: 16198 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: France Device: Kobo Forma / Onyx Boox Page	Interesting topic, thanks! I just received a Boox Page to play a bit with.... and I was horrified on how much it calls home. Coming from de-Googled and privacy friendly Android versions (CalyxOS)....it's astonishing. So far, I'll only go with Blokada first, block little by little the addresses Boox calls home. "pm disable" did not seem to work that much for example, the voice recorder could still be launched after a pm disable (which went successfully). Only the pm uninstall allowed me to really get rid of it.

08-16-2024, 03:53 AM	#116
trott3r Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: kobo sage considering boox	thanks for the info. any noticeable improvement in speed or redposiveness?

10-31-2024, 06:40 PM	#118
palantiri Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2024 Device: Onyx Boox Page	Thanks for this, I've used your debloat post to reduce my Page to what I want, just an e-reader. I've attempted to follow several guides/posts about the process of rooting a Boox. Though i have no experience doing this, I've gotten a patched .img file through magisk and gotten to the fastboot boot ".img". adb reboot fastboot - no issues fastboot devices - shows device is connected fastboot boot boot_patched.img - I renamed the patched file, but when i enter the command it produces a message stating: FAILED (remote: 'unknown command') fastboot: error: Command failed I've also attempted the process starting with: adb reboot bootloader - fails as well Should I be using the EDL method to root?

11-01-2024, 02:21 AM	#120
palantiri Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2024 Device: Onyx Boox Page	I'm attempting root using EDL, with Qualcomm662.elf, zadig, and fasboot driver. I'm getting this error: edl.exe /l662.elf Found EDL 9008, handshaking... version 2.1 HWID: 0014d0e100000000, JTAG: 0014d0e1, OEM: 0000, Model: 0000 Hash: d40eee56f3194665-574109a39267724a-e7944134cd53cb76-7e293d3c40497955-bc8a4519ff992b03-1fadc6355015ac87 (x3) Sending 662.elf 100% ok, starting... ok, waiting for Firehose... <log value="ERROR: Call to ufs_open(0, UFS_WLUN_DEVICE) failed:0" /> Ok Sorry if this is something obvious, I'll go through the other posts and see if I'm clearly missing something important.