Why are their 3x more reviews fir the Libra colour, 6" underated

[Quoth]

I don't like columns of text or very short lines (so I prefer 8″ ereader to matt screen phone), but don't like too wide, so my browser is about 1/3rd width and full height of screen. I hate sites that don't reflow and hate that Mobile Browser makes sites like PDF, no reflow if you zoom in.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Quoth

I don't like columns of text or very short lines (so I prefer 8″ ereader to matt screen phone), but don't like too wide, so my browser is about 1/3rd width and full height of screen. I hate sites that don't reflow and hate that Mobile Browser makes sites like PDF, no reflow if you zoom in.

I always use my browsers (and most other applications) full size, without exception.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I prefer 7'' and 8'' screens and the main reason is line length - I find longer line length more comfortable than shorter. Not too long, of course - I wouldn't want to read on a 10'' or larger screen with the font size I use.

Originally Posted by rashkae

There is no truth in in subjective preferences and comfort. Everyone will have their preferred reading format, and I did not intend to debate that. (I even said I prefer the larger screen myself.). But speaking in terms of just basic reading speed, I think the science on that is .... relatively clear and well studied. It's a point I only bring up because someone is raving and ranting about things that shouldn't exist.

A rather strange statement that there is no truth in subjective preferences and comfort.

Not quite sure what you are referring to with the basic reading speed? A quick Google search for studies comes up with the majority stating that longer lines are linked to higher reading speeds. Oddly, most of the studies also show that there is a wide variance between the line length where people read the fastest and the line length they feel most comfortable with. Basically, not much science and a lot of personal preference. The results on comprehension varied from shorter lines yielding higher comprehension to long lines leading to higher comprehension to the most popular conclusion that line length having no effect on comprehension.

Mary Dyson (2004) conducted research on line length, and combed other studies to determine what line length people prefer. Her work showed that 100 characters per line is the optimal length for on-screen reading speed;

Left-justified text is read faster than full-justified text.

A medium line length appears to support effective reading at normal and fast speeds. This produced the highest level of comprehension and was also read faster than short lines.

The Effect of Line Length and Passage Type on Reading Speed, Comprehension, and User Satisfaction states about 95 cpl is optimal for reading speed.

This study examined the effects of line length on reading performance. Reading rates were found to be fastest at 95 cpl. Readers reported either liking or disliking the extreme line lengths (35 cpl, 95 cpl). Those that liked the 35 cpl indicated that the short line length facilitated "faster" reading and was easier because it required less eye movement. Those that liked the 95 cpl stated that they liked having more information on a page at one time. Although some participants reported that they felt like they were reading faster at 35 cpl, this condition actually resulted in the slowest reading speed.

Furthermore, line length had no effect on comprehension.

[Denodan1]

Find I can read with small fonts, don't use big fonts on my Clara, so can scale it to refect the same page lines and scale as my Kindle 6.8" so get as many lines and words, just slightly smaller on the Clara, as you can adjust line spacing on the Clara.

It's like say comparing a 35" tv to a 40" one. Have the same picture info, just the 40" is a larger scale.

Same as the Clara and Libra. By adjusting the Clara scaling can get as many lines and words as the Libra

In normal mode unless you make the Libra even smaller

So yes can scale the Clara or any other 6" to match a 7" by scaling the screen.

The only issue I can see why people are saying needs more page turns, etc, is bad eyes, hense big fonts on the 6" and if ypur eyes are that bad then need a serious eye check. Unless you accually like giant fonts.

That's the beauty of e readers can choose and scale the screen to suit its screen size or your liking

[Denodan1]

For those who say the 6" is to small and unreadable, and cannot have the same amount of words and lines as the 7 ,you need glasses. Perfectly readable on both

Here I have the exact same scale on both and both have the same exact words.

Had to adjust my kindle fonts and space, etc to match the lines on my Clara, so can read from one to the other, abd bookmark the same page.

[DNSB]

Sadly, my old eyes do need glasses and I find I need a larger font size to keep my eyes comfortable.

See attached the screencaps from two of my Kobos showing the same page with the same amount of text on the screen (the Sage is at a comfortable font size, the Clara HD obviously needed a smaller size to fit the same amount of text on the screen.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Denodan1

For those who say the 6" is to small and unreadable, and cannot have the same amount of words and lines as the 7 ,you need glasses.

Why are you constantly repeating that? Lots of people do need and wear glasses.

[rashkae]

Originally Posted by DNSB

A rather strange statement that there is no truth in subjective preferences and comfort.

Not quite sure what you are referring to with the basic reading speed? A quick Google search for studies comes up with the majority stating that longer lines are linked to higher reading speeds. Oddly, most of the studies also show that there is a wide variance between the line length where people read the fastest and the line length they feel most comfortable with. Basically, not much science and a lot of personal preference. The results on comprehension varied from shorter lines yielding higher comprehension to long lines leading to higher comprehension to the most popular conclusion that line length having no effect on comprehension.

That's an interesting find. Whenever I 'researched' this topic in the past, (research meaning Google Search), line lenghts of over 80 characters were found to be detrimental. That's the neat thing about science though, always evolving. I don't think I would sit on any conclusion there anymore.

As for my no truth comment, I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying someone's preference is not true. I meant that someone's preferences has no relevance to apply to someone elses. Because someone likes 40 character lines, does not imply any reason that should also be the case for someone else.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Denodan1

For those who say the 6" is to small and unreadable, and cannot have the same amount of words and lines as the 7 ,you need glasses. Perfectly readable on both

Here I have the exact same scale on both and both have the same exact words.

Had to adjust my kindle fonts and space, etc to match the lines on my Clara, so can read from one to the other, abd bookmark the same page.

You do realize that your comparison is flawed. Different fonts and different font sizes. Different L/R margins and different line height. So your comparison is 100% flawed. You need the same font, same font size, same line height, and the sale L/R margins.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Why are you constantly repeating that? Lots of people do need and wear glasses.

He fixed the results so they show what he wants to show instead of showing what is.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by rashkae

That's an interesting find. Whenever I 'researched' this topic in the past, (research meaning Google Search), line lenghts of over 80 characters were found to be detrimental. That's the neat thing about science though, always evolving. I don't think I would sit on any conclusion there anymore.

As for my no truth comment, I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying someone's preference is not true. I meant that someone's preferences has no relevance to apply to someone elses. Because someone likes 40 character lines, does not imply any reason that should also be the case for someone else.

While I do line the lines I get on the Libra 2 at my chosen font size and font, I would not line to read on an iPad with one column in landscape.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by rashkae

That's an interesting find. Whenever I 'researched' this topic in the past, (research meaning Google Search), line lenghts of over 80 characters were found to be detrimental. That's the neat thing about science though, always evolving. I don't think I would sit on any conclusion there anymore.

I was quite surprised as well. I had heard the same shorter lines were easier to read. But when I did my search, the opposite was found in most of the studies.

Originally Posted by rashkae

As for my no truth comment, I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying someone's preference is not true. I meant that someone's preferences has no relevance to apply to someone elses. Because someone likes 40 character lines, does not imply any reason that should also be the case for someone else.

That is true. I know my preferences are unlikely to match other people's so to quote Mercedes Lackey: "There is no one true way." One of the real joys of reading on an ereader is that you can modify the page view to come closer to your preferences.

[PHughes]

I will weigh in on this, though I probably shouldn't.

I bought the Clara BW to replace my Clara HD that just died. Instead of restoring the Clara HD using a new SD card and image, I decided to replace it. It was flakey, and the battery calibration was perpetually off, and the battery lif in general wasn't nearly as good as my old Sonys, Kobo Mini, and Kobo Aura H2O. I'm happy to say my new Clara BW doesn't have that issue.

I liked the Aura H2O, but when I broke it, I went back to a smaller format, choosing the Clara HD. There really was no other choice for me since I absolutely hate the asymmetrical format of the other readers Kobo puts out. I was very happy once buttons disappeared from ereaders when touch screens made them unnecessary. To have them come back in what I see as an odd format was surprising to me. The shape makes it more difficult to fit into a pocket, and adds nothing, for me.

I was happy to get back to a smaller form factor, since the Clara better fits into my pocket, and the bags I travel with. Since I travel with a lot in my bags for work, the smaller form factor makes it nicer. I have not missed the larger screen at all since replacing my old Aura H20. I will be 60 in a few months so I don't have young eyes.

I was very tempted to get the Clara Colour, since I do use the reader to view Sky & Telescope magazine once in a while, but since I do mainly reading on it, I opted for the BW.

I think a lot of people like the smaller format. I do understand the popularity of the larger screens, and for most I am sure they are a great fit, but for someone who travels a lot, with limited space, the Clara is perfect. I would have been more apt to purchase a 7 inch screen reader if the form factor was like the original Aura H20, or like the Clara, no buttons. The addition of the buttons on the side just makes it basically impossible to put into a pocket, whereas I could slip my Aura H20 into the back pocket of a pair of jeans. It fit tighter than a Clara, but it fit. Of course the Clara can slip into my front pocket as well. So I have the smaller screen due to the odd form factor and larger size of the newer 7 inch screen models. If they made a 7 inch model without the buttons on the side, they might win me over. For now, the Clara BW fits the bill. I just hope they don't ruin it in case I need to buy another one down the road.

As with anything, it comes down to personal tastes and needs.

[Sirtel]

For my part, I was very happy when buttons returned along with the asymmetrical shape, which I adore. If they hadn't, I would never have bought a Kobo at all.

But then I don't put my ereaders in a pocket, or anywhere really, I don't travel and only read at home. YMMV, of course.

We should be happy that Kobo has two form factors at all. Kindle only has the old, buttonless symmetrical shape now, which I hate. (Unless one counts the Scribe, but even the Scribe is buttonless and really too big for my taste).

[PHughes]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

For my part, I was very happy when buttons returned along with the asymmetrical shape, which I adore. If they hadn't, I would never have bought a Kobo at all.

But then I don't put my ereaders in a pocket, or anywhere really, I don't travel and only read at home. YMMV, of course.

We should be happy that Kobo has two form factors at all. Kindle only has the old, buttonless symmetrical shape now, which I hate. (Unless one counts the Scribe, but even the Scribe is buttonless and really too big for my taste).

I agree about having two form factors, but it would be nice to give people the option in the larger screen.