Which 7-8" ereader? - Page 7

John F · 07-22-2024, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

I think eink technology is now mature enough that there may never be any huge leaps anymore - updates will be incremental, just like it is with computers, tablets and phones. Unless someone invents another technology entirely.

I don't think I there have been any huge "eink" leaps in the past, other then the initial release. The big leaps I can think of are lighting, touch screen, and color. So I could see a big leap in eink readers, just not in eink itself.

Denodan1 · 07-22-2024, 05:07 PM

The colour will get better, but the non colour wont. Colour has already improved over then 1st and second gen versions

Quoth · 07-22-2024, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Denodan1

The colour will get better, but the non colour wont. Colour has already improved over then 1st and second gen versions

Hardly any improvement in Kaleido. Any improvement is due to incremental mono Carta improvements.

Physically it's impossible to get better because it's on a mono eink with black, white and 14 greys.

Aleron Ives · 07-22-2024, 05:57 PM

Kaleido 1 had horrible ghosting and 100 PPI. Kaleido 3 is a significant improvement, even if it's still a fundamentally flawed technology.

Denodan1 · 07-22-2024, 06:19 PM

And don't forget Kaleido 3 offers far more colour, still not perfect, but colour adds to the who experiences and its like watching a black and white TV to colour. Think having colour is well worth it and worth putting up with the issues colour can have. As for reading, not a lot of difference at all.

I think the Boox is the better investment, as just to read, colour is not worth it as all you see is pretty colour covers, but get into the book is just black words of white, and only comes into it with comics or books with colour pictures.

But the Boox make more use of colour being android and can even store photos on it and apps which contain and use colour, so Think Boox being in colour is more worthy a buy than kobo as its more customisable and can even adjust colour, etc, and better contrast and colour pop over the Libra Colour.

However all this customization comes at a cost, as so many choices, its not as user friendly and maybe a bit bothersome or hard for some, but if you like to tinker its the better choice I feel due to its more than just an e reader so can get more use.

It sits between a tablet and ereader

Aleron Ives · 07-22-2024, 06:33 PM

It depends what you want. I want an e-reader, not a tablet, so I bought a Kobo.

Sirtel · 07-22-2024, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

It depends what you want. I want an e-reader, not a tablet, so I bought a Kobo.

Ditto. For playing around I have other devices; I don't need another tablet-like device. On my Kobos I want only to read, and only black and white novels at that; I have no interest in comics.

YMMV, as always.

Quoth · 07-22-2024, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives

Kaleido 1 had horrible ghosting and 100 PPI. Kaleido 3 is a significant improvement, even if it's still a fundamentally flawed technology.

The ghosting was the kind of mono eink panel used.

Quoth · 07-22-2024, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Denodan1

And don't forget Kaleido 3 offers far more colour, still not perfect,

Than what? ALL colour eink using Pearl, Carta, Carta 1200, Carta 1300 (Triton or Kaleido) are limited by the mono eink to a maximum (if perfectly calibrated) of 4096 variations (sum of hues, brightnesses and saturations).
It only offers more colour than mono.

JSWolf · 07-23-2024, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Denodan1

And don't forget Kaleido 3 offers far more colour, still not perfect, but colour adds to the who experiences and its like watching a black and white TV to colour. Think having colour is well worth it and worth putting up with the issues colour can have. As for reading, not a lot of difference at all.

I think the Boox is the better investment, as just to read, colour is not worth it as all you see is pretty colour covers, but get into the book is just black words of white, and only comes into it with comics or books with colour pictures.

But the Boox make more use of colour being android and can even store photos on it and apps which contain and use colour, so Think Boox being in colour is more worthy a buy than kobo as its more customisable and can even adjust colour, etc, and better contrast and colour pop over the Libra Colour.

However all this customization comes at a cost, as so many choices, its not as user friendly and maybe a bit bothersome or hard for some, but if you like to tinker its the better choice I feel due to its more than just an e reader so can get more use.

It sits between a tablet and ereader

If you were watching a TV program that used Kalideo 3 colors, would you enjoy watching this TV program?

Denodan1 · 07-27-2024, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Quoth

Than what? ALL colour eink using Pearl, Carta, Carta 1200, Carta 1300 (Triton or Kaleido) are limited by the mono eink to a maximum (if perfectly calibrated) of 4096 variations (sum of hues, brightnesses and saturations).
It only offers more colour than mono.

The eariler colour displays showed far less colours then the latest colour displays

Denodan1 · 07-27-2024, 02:36 AM

Had a look at the Libra, tried in the shop and the Clara, and actually preferred the Clara, which is lighter and far more comfy to hold. I have the Kindle paperwhite 11th gen and the Clara is more comfy and lighter to hold.

Trouble is with the buttons, these will eventually stop working

Renate · 07-27-2024, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Denodan1

Trouble is with the buttons, these will eventually stop working

Fortunately for me, the buttons are on my Bluetooth clicker, I built it and have a couple of dozen pushbuttons in reserve.

JSWolf · 07-27-2024, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Denodan1

Had a look at the Libra, tried in the shop and the Clara, and actually preferred the Clara, which is lighter and far more comfy to hold. I have the Kindle paperwhite 11th gen and the Clara is more comfy and lighter to hold.

Trouble is with the buttons, these will eventually stop working

The Libra 2 is great to hold with a case on it.

Denodan1 · 07-27-2024, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The Libra 2 is great to hold with a case on it.

Did not find that with the libra colour. The Clara wad miles more comfy, less bulky and easier to put in a bag. While the buttons are good, it's more bulky which I did not like. Also the buttons will eventually stop working, so no buttons on the Clara is bonus, don't need or miss them. As used to have an oasis and did not like the asymmetrical designs as they alway felt heavier and more bulk. Have the paper-white 11th Gen also and more bulky the the Clara, which unlike the paper-white and Libra feels like ypur almost holding nothing. The paper-white kindle 11th Gen is so much heavier and not as comfy as the Clara

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07-22-2024, 05:07 PM	#92
Denodan1 Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2019 Device: Kindle Oasis 3	The colour will get better, but the non colour wont. Colour has already improved over then 1st and second gen versions

07-22-2024, 05:57 PM	#94
Aleron Ives Wizard Posts: 1,419 Karma: 16297052 Join Date: Sep 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	Kaleido 1 had horrible ghosting and 100 PPI. Kaleido 3 is a significant improvement, even if it's still a fundamentally flawed technology.

07-22-2024, 06:19 PM	#95
Denodan1 Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2019 Device: Kindle Oasis 3	And don't forget Kaleido 3 offers far more colour, still not perfect, but colour adds to the who experiences and its like watching a black and white TV to colour. Think having colour is well worth it and worth putting up with the issues colour can have. As for reading, not a lot of difference at all. I think the Boox is the better investment, as just to read, colour is not worth it as all you see is pretty colour covers, but get into the book is just black words of white, and only comes into it with comics or books with colour pictures. But the Boox make more use of colour being android and can even store photos on it and apps which contain and use colour, so Think Boox being in colour is more worthy a buy than kobo as its more customisable and can even adjust colour, etc, and better contrast and colour pop over the Libra Colour. However all this customization comes at a cost, as so many choices, its not as user friendly and maybe a bit bothersome or hard for some, but if you like to tinker its the better choice I feel due to its more than just an e reader so can get more use. It sits between a tablet and ereader

07-22-2024, 06:33 PM	#96
Aleron Ives Wizard Posts: 1,419 Karma: 16297052 Join Date: Sep 2022 Device: Kobo Libra 2	It depends what you want. I want an e-reader, not a tablet, so I bought a Kobo.

07-27-2024, 02:36 AM	#102
Denodan1 Connoisseur Posts: 90 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2019 Device: Kindle Oasis 3	Had a look at the Libra, tried in the shop and the Clara, and actually preferred the Clara, which is lighter and far more comfy to hold. I have the Kindle paperwhite 11th gen and the Clara is more comfy and lighter to hold. Trouble is with the buttons, these will eventually stop working