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Old 02-02-2024, 04:33 AM   #271
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No way to automate it. I will have to pull out the kerning tables and update the space to make it smaller. I also have to update the metadata to match the current ChareInk fonts. I then have to add hinting. After that's done, I have to make a copy of the font and add weight to it. Then I'll be done. I'll do this sometime this week when I get a chance.
Any chance you could document the process? I believe a lot of people will be willing to help to get new versions out quicker.
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Old 02-02-2024, 09:21 AM   #272
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Any chance you could document the process? I believe a lot of people will be willing to help to get new versions out quicker.
I just have to have time to do this. I've not had the time. One problem is I don't know how the increased weight translates to different programs to get the same weight.
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Old 03-28-2024, 12:42 PM   #273
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I'm trying the font on my kindle, it looks nice. Thanks
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Old 03-28-2024, 01:05 PM   #274
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I'm trying the font on my kindle, it looks nice. Thanks
Your welcome. It also works well on Kobo also.
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Old 04-16-2024, 09:13 AM   #275
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I just have to have time to do this. I've not had the time. One problem is I don't know how the increased weight translates to different programs to get the same weight.
Perhaps a release of the 6.2 version without added weights might be alright seeing as how most e-readers support adding it manually?

Also, as per the official website, the 6.2 does not have any significant changes to line spacing, glyph widths, or kerning versus the 6.1 to avoid layout changes, so the modifications might be easier than anticipated.
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Howdy, I'm trying to use CharInk6SP on my Libra 2 and I'm finding the regular weight is just extremely heavy, even with the newer font weight slider all the way to the left (firmware v4.38) Is it my device that's at play or is is just quite heavy?

Pics attached. This is a kepub. The italics that are rendering are much more what I like. The "before" in the second pic is Minion Pro Med which is also my speed.

I'm going in circles around font names and fontforge too, so it could be me. Can't currently get Noto Sans to render thinly, either, though that's off topic.
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Old 06-24-2024, 07:50 AM   #277
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Howdy, I'm trying to use CharInk6SP on my Libra 2 and I'm finding the regular weight is just extremely heavy, even with the newer font weight slider all the way to the left (firmware v4.38) Is it my device that's at play or is is just quite heavy?

Pics attached. This is a kepub. The italics that are rendering are much more what I like. The "before" in the second pic is Minion Pro Med which is also my speed.

I'm going in circles around font names and fontforge too, so it could be me. Can't currently get Noto Sans to render thinly, either, though that's off topic.
There are two versions. One with added weight for devices such as a Pocketbook that do not have the ability to adjust font weight and one version with no added weight.

The one you want is ChareInk6SP NoWeight. With that version, there's no need to reduce the weight and some (including myself) add weight.

If you are using the version with no added weight, try ePub and not KePub in case it's an issue with KePub.
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Old 06-24-2024, 04:58 PM   #278
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The one you want is ChareInk6SP NoWeight. With that version, there's no need to reduce the weight and some (including myself) add weight.
Yep, you're sure right. I could've sworn I tested this one already. Thank you! Looks great
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Old 06-24-2024, 05:40 PM   #279
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Yep, you're sure right. I could've sworn I tested this one already. Thank you! Looks great
You're welcome. Glad you like the font.
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These are based on the version 6 of Charis SIL. They've been renamed ChareInk6. They have had kerning added and one version has added weight for use with eInk screens that do not have the ability to add weight such as Pocketbook and Sony Reader. There is also a version with no added weight so you can add your own weight or use with LCD screens. And there is yet another version with a smaller space which in some cases does look better. And finally, the line height metrics have been adjusted to work well with ePub and with Kindles (KF8).
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1. Which version is which and
2. What's the purpose of the "Hinted" folder?

I have a Kobo Clara Colour. Which version should I use?
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I have a Kobo Clara Colour. Which version should I use?
The NoWeight versions have no added weight so you can use the font weight adjustment on your Kobo to add weight tot he font as you see fit.

ChareInk6SP has a smaller space then ChareInk6. I like the ChareInk6SP on my Libra 2 and on a Kindle PW5.

The weighted versions are version that have had weight added too them by a font editor. I did this back when I had a Reader that did not have the ability to add weight to the font. Try the hinted version(s) as the hinted fonts have a smaller file size.

For a font to work properly on a Kindle it needs to be hinted. On a Kobo, the font can be hinted or not. I don't recall if I am using a hinted version or not. On a Kobo it makes no difference.

I suggest you try ChareInk6SP with no added weight and see how you like it. If you find the spaces too small, you can try ChareInk6 with no added weight. You can go for the
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Old 08-02-2024, 11:14 AM   #282
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I've highlighted the issue earlier and wouldn't recommend the use of the weighted version. There are many visual artifacts rendering it unusable for reading (tiny spikes at joints, slanted lines, etc.).


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I've highlighted the issue earlier and won't recommend the use of the weighted version. There are many visual artifacts rendering it unusable for reading (tiny spikes at joints, slanted lines, etc.).

IMHO. it's good enough on an eInk screen. You've enlarged it more then it would be seen on an eInk screen. But yes, I do agree that the weighted version has some issues.
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IMHO. it's good enough on an eInk screen. You've enlarged it more then it would be seen on an eInk screen. But yes, I do agree that the weighted version has some issues.
I can confirm that the artifacts are in fact quite visible at smaller sizes (300dpi eink display, font size 28) and are very bothersome while reading.
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I can confirm that the artifacts are in fact quite visible at smaller sizes (300dpi eink display, font size 28) and are very bothersome while reading.
What is font size 28 on what size screen and what Reader? If it's a Kobo or a new enough Kindle, you don't need the weighted version as you can use the unweighted version and up the weight.

What I might try is upping the wight using Fontforge and see how that goes.
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