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Old 06-11-2024, 08:03 PM   #16
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I meant the size of the margin. Even if they went to the currently narrowest choice with no option to change it wouldn't be minimalist.
Waste of expensive eink display for exactly why?
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Old 06-11-2024, 10:27 PM   #17
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Waste of expensive eink display for exactly why?
I think that wider margins make text look better, and easer to read. Books, newspapers, and magazines tend to leave plenty of white space around the text. It's usually small displays that need smaller margins so fonts can be bigger and easier to read, I don't think that's needed on Scribe. But I am for options, as long as Amazon boffins don't just go and make all three margin options very small.
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Old 06-12-2024, 12:07 AM   #18
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Comparing a Clara HD with the margin on the device set to step 1 and a Paperwhite 10th gen with the same font size and margins set to the minimum with both having the CSS margins set to 0, the margins on the Clara HD are about 1mm from the edge of the screen while on the Paperwhite, they are 6.25mm from the edge of the screen. Given both screen are 90.75mm x ~122.6mm, this give ~13.8% of the screen width (13.5/90.75*100) being wasted on the Paperwhite 10th gen. at a minimum. At the 3rd margin setting, the left/right margins go to 1.8cm so ~39.5% of the screen width (36/90.75*100) is being wasted on those margins. Admittedly, the Clara HD on it's maximum margin goes to 1.5cm but it has 10 steps instead of 3 and the first step is no margin.
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I think that wider margins make text look better, and easer to read. Books, newspapers, and magazines tend to leave plenty of white space around the text.
So make it a user option. It is on everything else.


Books and other paper media need a margin to hide variations in cropping and avoid losing text with wear or damage. It's on egotism with some publishers having excessive white space. The whole point of an ereader (or ereader app) is to give the consuming human control of non-content issues such as font size, line spacing, margins etc. Stupidity and arrogance by Amazon.
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I agree, having margins alongside already wide bezels is unacceptable!
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Old 06-12-2024, 12:35 PM   #21
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I agree, having margins alongside already wide bezels is unacceptable!
Yes, the bezel is part of the margin, especially on flush screen ereaders.
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I understand the roots of the margins though. In printing press, wide margins allow for the printer to hold on to the paper better, this is especially important for large scale fast-paced printing like everyday newspapers. It is also cheaper to just “waste paper with wide margins”, but print more and sell immediately, than also having them trimmed down after printing.

For ereaders, though, except for the habit to have “open space around text” - I don’t the point…
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I understand the roots of the margins though. In printing press, wide margins allow for the printer to hold on to the paper better, this is especially important for large scale fast-paced printing like everyday newspapers. It is also cheaper to just “waste paper with wide margins”, but print more and sell immediately, than also having them trimmed down after printing.

For ereaders, though, except for the habit to have “open space around text” - I don’t the point…
Oh, they go much further back than printing. Large margins go hand in hand with exclusivity and prestige.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMSnkTjiXXY&t=101s
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Thanks for the link
Yeah, I guess it goes back to “hand” printing as well where they had to fix the paper somehow while writing and drawing
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