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Why is it that some fonts have to have some letters with a descender that are not supposed to have them such as the letter J?
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Then we have overshoot which is found on such glyphs as the lower case o where the bowl can extend slightly below the baseline. In other words, Jon, it is a choice by the font designer and you can find examples that are centuries old. There is no carved on a stone slab commandment saying "Thou shall not have descenders on upper case glyphs". Personally, I'm not that fond of them since I've run into crashing descenders where the descender overlaps with the ascender of a character in the next line so the fewer descenders the better for making my work easier. |
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I agree that I am not a fan of descender crashing. OTOH, since even your favoured Charis SIL font has a descender on the capital Q not to mention the usual suspects for the lower case letters (g, j, p, q and y) so there is still a chance of crashing descenders if the line width is set too narrow.
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Serif
I don't do sans-serif. I usually start with something from the list above and around 5-10% into the book I place a new sans-serif substitute in. Here are the substitutes for when the embedded CSS demands it (only based on context): Sans-serif subtitutes
--- My favorite is by far EB Garamond, but it needs personalization. I haven't been able to use it on default reader of Nickel where there are tons of rendering issues. A few weeks ago I decided to give KOReader a try and with the customizations it offers, EB Garamond is back on the menu. It looks so good; but without KOReader, it's impossible. Also worth mentioning that it doesn't work with all books, like sci-fi. But when it works, it's perfect. Reading The Wager with EB Garamond was an absolute bliss. |
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What does 'doesn't work' mean to you in this context? To me, a font either looks good, or it doesn't. What I'm reading with it has nothing to do with that.
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He's saying that when you add weight to the font via Nickel, it doesn't look good. But when you add weight through KOReader, EB Garamond looks OK.
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OK, I get that. But I reacted to his claim that it didn't work for him when reading SciFi, but did when reading something else. I don't see the connection there, unless he switches readers to do that.
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Also true what @JSWolf says. Without KOReader, and without the small adjustments made available by its reader (kerning, weight, contrast, hints etc. and most importantly line height), I can't make Garamond look good on Nickel. |
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IMHO, I don't like Gramamond on eInk. A number of eBooks come with Adobe Garamond Pro embedded and I strip it out.
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