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I suppose it has already been addressed in this thread, but not to have to read all previous post:
Is it possible to write by hand, and have it changed to epub font and pdf? For example if you want to write a book? Even ready for Kindle format? If so, is that a hassle? (I'm so used to my laptop.) Insights I usually quickly jot down with a ballpoint or pencil on scraps of paper. I have a stack of those. I like the idea of just handwriting a text for a possible book. And then have it converted to print font. Even the idea of publishing a book printed in my handwriting has come up. (People have told me they like my handwriting, and its really easy to read.) But I have doubts about that being a good idea... Last edited by Lode; 05-05-2019 at 05:18 PM. |
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For me personally it is a very important feature to be able to have every book I read look exactly the same. I am not alone in this and I know that others like to switch things up depending on genre, mood, time of day, tiredness of eyes, and so on. |
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Thank you much.
That thought had also passed my mind, that creating an alphabet with my handwritten letters and use that would also look unnatural. In the mean time I also concluded that just using existing book fonts is best. So thank you for confirming that, including with technical detail. But still handwriting a book seems attractive to me. To then have it converted to book font. I've noticed that with correcting typo's during typing it might not be all that much faster than handwriting. (Even though I use all fingers minus my left thumb, as I only use my right one for the space bar. But I also have fallen into the habit of often peaking where I put my fingers. And still typos. Not so with handwriting. Or much less.) Last edited by Lode; 05-06-2019 at 12:44 PM. |
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Of course, one would still have to go through the resulting text to ensure that punctuation, paragraph breaks and the like were all where they were needed. Also, I've noticed that sometimes two separate words will get rendered as one word... Still, I have been impressed. Even for taking notes in a lecture, such a function can be very useful. Studies have apparently shown that those who take notes by hand have a better recall of the information afterwards... Using such software, one could have the best of both worlds. One would reap the benefits gained from taking notes by hand, but would then have searchable notes which one could easily manipulate and share with others. Last edited by Question Mark; 05-06-2019 at 09:57 PM. |
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The handwriting recognition feature on the reMarkable is pretty good (it does a better job of reading my wife's handwriting than I do), actually. The one problem I have with it is, it doesn't try to read formulas, and that's a huge part of what I write.
The other limitations are in the software implementation: it only works with an internet connection, and it doesn't offer a way to convert the result into text in the document - all you can do with the result is send it by email. This last part is pretty a pretty stupid limitation, if you ask me, but there it is. Also, you need to go all the way to the settings to change the language preselection - you can't change on the fly. This too is a problem for me - by myself I write in French, but when I'm taking notes from a lecture in English I'll typically write in English as well. |
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Hi, Philippe!
I would ask if you could share some details about handwriting on reMarkable. Aside from the feeling of writing on true paper that I saw everyone praises, which is the accuracy of handwriting? I refer not only to the large writing that appears in all the video reviews, but to the calligraphic writing. With Onyx Boox Note, although (with some efforts) the general appearance of the page is satisfactory, however the line of writing is slightly trembling and when lifting and restoring the stylus on the screen, there is a mistake of 1-2 mm, accentuated at the edges of the screen. Could you post a higher resolution image with a handwriting page? One more question: the recognition of handwriting in what proportion is faithful to the text entered? Does it work for two languages simultaneously? (At Onyx Boox the fidelity of the recognition is very good - with the only problem being that spaces must be added between words, but it only works for one language). Thanks and sorry for disturbing. |
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There is no native handwriting recognition / conversion at all, you send the notebook to a server on the Internet. However that's true for the Kindle Scribe too.
Both reMarkable original and reMarkable 2 are now on version 3.x.x firmware. You may need to check for updates and update more than once till the GUI tells you you are up to date. https://support.remarkable.com/s/art...re-release-3-0 The original is nicer to write on (textured plastic vs glass on reMarkable2). It still only has networking for USB connection, using your browser if you can't run the app. It still converts to PDF if you want epub2. Some features need the Internet or also a subscription. The release notes are misleading. reMarkable2 Quote:
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The original reMarkable has 512K vs 1024M RAM, a slightly slower cpu, three buttons vs none, easier to write/sketch screen and almost 50g lighter. Other than that they are very similar and run the same version number of software/firmware so far (3.x.x as I write). The reMarkable2 is thinner by 2mm (just a bit more than 1/16th inch = 1.6mm) There is no real library feature like on Kindle or Kobo, you have a file manager. Specifications from reMarkable's Web site https://support.remarkable.com/s/art...t-reMarkable-1 https://support.remarkable.com/s/art...t-reMarkable-2 Using without a subscription https://support.remarkable.com/s/art...a-subscription Very misleading article. The handwriting conversion uses a cloud service that happens to be free now. It is not on the device. You get the conversion by email. I've given away my reMarkable a short while ago, but upgraded it via WiFi and internet yesterday. I can't see how to update other than OTA WiFi on the Internet. Last edited by Quoth; 01-31-2023 at 02:27 PM. |
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Comparison
The first Sony Digital Paper was ten years ago.
https://the-digital-reader.com/sony-...aper-division/ The original reMarkable was 3 years later. The reMarkable 2 is a minor update with more awkward screen, removed the buttons and still essentially a networked PDF device. (WiFi or USB networking) So it's essentially more like the Sony Digital Paper models than like an Onyx, Meebook, Kobo or Kindle model with a digitiser and stylus. If you want secondhand PDF with sketch freehand annotation, then an original reMarkable may be better value than a reMarkable 2 or a Sony Digital Paper. AFAIK the Sony only connects via the Sony host program. The reMarkable will work on anything with a USB host, USB networking and a browser. Or a second-hand Fujitsu 10.3″ Quaderno A5 uses about the same screen as all the 10.3″ makes but the Kindle Scribe. It might be less restrictive than Sony software, only the hardware is the same. https://the-digital-reader.com/fujit...rno-a5-and-a4/ Last edited by Quoth; 01-31-2023 at 02:25 PM. |
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I am surprised the remarkable does not come with the pen. I went to the website and it was crazy cheap, Apparently once you buy the pen it gets pricier. Its now $279 refurb like new and $299 new BEFORE pen is added. https://remarkable.com/store/configu...2&device=RM110
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I'd guess they buy in Wacom EMR Pens as sales require and have a load of reMarkables they need to sell.
It's old, and clunky even with latest Firmware. Also the Notebook now accepts typed input from the touch screen and never converted pen handwriting, it was just a sketch pad. Obviously if you want to annotate the PDF you need the Wacom EMR Pen. I think the Scribe is better value now, even though it's about $280 to $450 depending on options, though I don't think it does onboard handwriting to text conversion either. I seriously considered a Scribe simply for PDF proofing, but I can't be sending the PDFs to Amazon. I don't miss the reMarkable. I must see what use, if any, it's getting. That family has a Sage, Nia, Sony PRS-T2 and even an LCD Binatone ereader. All better to read novels / epubs on. |
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I want one but the main reason I have not purchased one is there is no backlight, not enough storage, and you have to pay extra for the pen. The tablet buy itself new is $299 or $279 refurb but once you add a pen and folio its over $500 which is crazy! much better to get a Scribe or Elipsa or BOOX
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Only USB Networking, no MTP or Mass Storage. (Kobo Mass Storage) No Calibre connection. (Kobo has best support: Titles, Authors, Collections, reading state/position, Series, bookmarks, highlights, notes) Drag & drop one file at a time in Browser to Send. Only create folders on reMarkable GUI on device. No handwriting conversion on the device. (Works on Sage & Elipsa) Only Native PDF, epubs are converted to PDF. Really only file based navigation, no Library interface (Kobo, Kindle, Sony). I was considering a Scribe, but descriptions put me off a bit. Now that it's MTP, though better still than reMarkable, it's off my list. |
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