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Old 04-22-2023, 10:53 AM   #1
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What's the best bookstore for easily-removeable DRM?
What's the best bookstore for easily-removeable DRM?

Kindle is just a nightmare now for DRM removal. Nothing I've tried has worked on anything released in the last few years. Plus I don't want to buy from them for a multitude of other reasons.

What other options are there? Is it easy enough to remove DRM from Kobo eBooks?
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Old 04-22-2023, 03:09 PM   #2
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Smashwords, because there is never any DRM.
Kindle is fine for bought books if you have a Kindle eink.
Kobo is fine for bought books. No ereader or app needed.

There is no reason to remove DRM from subscription or library ebooks (KU borrows, Prime borrows, Kobo Plus loans, Libby, Overdrive, Borrowbox etc).
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Kobo allows you to download all your purchases with ADE, which makes DRM removal easy.

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There is no reason to remove DRM from subscription or library ebooks
Sure there is. As one example, if you want to override bad CSS that forbids you from changing the font, you'll have to decrypt the book to do it. You just need to be sure to delete all the files when your library loan expires.
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Kobo allows you to download all your purchases with ADE, which makes DRM removal easy.

Except of course for Kobo Plus suscription ebooks which have no download option and ebooks without DRM which download with their GUID file.

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Sure there is. As one example, if you want to override bad CSS that forbids you from changing the font, you'll have to decrypt the book to do it. You just need to be sure to delete all the files when your library loan expires.
Or those Kindle users outside the USA or in the USA who do not have access to Amazon format loans. A rather small group and not the majority of ebook hoarders.
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What's the best bookstore for easily-removeable DRM?

Kindle is just a nightmare now for DRM removal. Nothing I've tried has worked on anything released in the last few years. Plus I don't want to buy from them for a multitude of other reasons.

What other options are there? Is it easy enough to remove DRM from Kobo eBooks?
Kobo (but download ePub and not KePub)
eBooks.com
Google Play Books

All are ePub that use ADE DRM.
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Except of course for Kobo Plus suscription ebooks
I said Kobo lets you download your purchases, and Kobo Plus book rentals are not purchases, so that checks out.

Kindle Unlimited/Kobo Plus are in a different category from library books, as well. You pay for library books with your tax dollars, so the library loses nothing if you decrypt its books, as long as you delete them when the loan expires.

KU/KP, on the other hand, pay authors based upon how much reading you do, and that tracking doesn't work if you remove the DRM, so DRM removal for subscription services is not acceptable, IMO, as it prevents the authors from getting paid (i.e. it's stealing).
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KU/KP, on the other hand, pay authors based upon how much reading you do, and that tracking doesn't work if you remove the DRM, so DRM removal for subscription services is not acceptable, IMO, as it prevents the authors from getting paid (i.e. it's stealing).
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Thanks everyone. Super helpful. I followed this advice and Smashwords didn't have the books I was after, but Kobo did. I bought one but I am unable to import it to Calibre or my device.

Which leads to my next thread...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=353523
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Thanks everyone. Super helpful. I followed this advice and Smashwords didn't have the books I was after, but Kobo did. I bought one but I am unable to import it to Calibre or my device.

Which leads to my next thread...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=353523
From the other thread, your version of DeDRM is not going to work with the current version of Calibre. You need 10.0.3. https://github.com/noDRM/DeDRM_tools
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From the other thread, your version of DeDRM is not going to work with the current version of Calibre. You need 10.0.3. https://github.com/noDRM/DeDRM_tools
Or in theory use an earlier version of calibre on one machine, export then import to the latest calibre on a second one or use a different windows account.

Cheerio John
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