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I wonder what the comments would be if someone had someone had the criteria:- - written by a man - has a white protagonist Personally it does not matter to me if the author is male or female as long as a book is well written. My favourite author list contains both males and females. As for the protagonist, unless it is central to the story, why does the author even need to assign a skin colour to them? Our imaginations will fill in the details. |
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If the context was identifying a western story which was written by a member of the patriarchy, I believe that would be a reasonable expectation.
In this case, a defining characteristic of the story is that it was one of the first ones to have a wizard protagonist who wasn't in the mold of Merlin (bearded old white guy), and that it was written by a woman is a significant thing for this list, esp. for the time. In many instances, a character's race can be a significant and meaningful consideration, even when not explicitly described --- classic example of that would be Heinlein's _Starship Troopers_ --- the protagonist is Filipino and that is concealed until the end of the novel, which is esp. of note when one considers that Heinlein was of an age to have served in the segregated Navy, and would have been assigned to ships where the galley crew would have all been from the Philippines. |
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I skimmed this thread even though fantasy is not my genre, but how can The Last Unicorn by Peter S. Beagle not be on the list?
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I would argue that _A Wizard of Earthsea_ is notable as one of the best fantasy novels, and a big part of why is that it is one of the first, if not the first, which breaks out of the established mold of "the Wizard is a Merlin clone".
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Sometimes Jon's heavy-handed haranguing has the opposite impact from what was intended. I picked up Consider Phlebas on his similarly strong 'endorsement'. |
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There used to be a site that listed best fantasy books that had lists classified via sub-genres as well, like stand alone, series, and several categories. It had a companion for SF as well. It must have gone down, I can't find it any more.
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I have a little trouble with the word "best". By what criteria?
My definitions go somewhat like this: Keep forever (Best), Re-read often, Read once, Don't finish, and Never buy any more from that author. |
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