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View Poll Results: What’s your Covid vaccination status? | |||
I’ve had both shots. | 3 | 3.45% | |
I’ve had my first shot. | 15 | 17.24% | |
My first shot is scheduled, but I haven’t got it yet. | 2 | 2.30% | |
I’m qualified in my state or region and want it, but haven’t been able to schedule it. | 10 | 11.49% | |
I’m not qualified yet in my state or region. | 45 | 51.72% | |
Qualified or not, my immune system is compromised and I won’t get one. | 0 | 0% | |
I’m opposed to the vaccine on principle and won’t get one. | 2 | 2.30% | |
I’m waiting to see how it goes. | 6 | 6.90% | |
There’s no vaccine available in my region. | 3 | 3.45% | |
Prefer not to answer. | 1 | 1.15% | |
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04-11-2021, 11:13 PM | #346 |
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OK. So the analogy starts out with your presupposition that I used a racist word to start with.
But that is not the case here. We presuppose nothing - we have not agreed that "hysterical" is sexist before beginning discussion. But that's what your above explanation of the analogy says. You are attempting to convince me that the word is sexist. Presupposing it is sexist from the beginning renders the whole convincing thing moot. I am not being deliberately obtuse. I am methodically responding to your points with logic, one after the other. You apparently do not like that I don't immediately jump on board with everything you proclaim. That does not make me obtuse. But I can see how it might frustrate you. Last edited by haertig; 04-11-2021 at 11:45 PM. |
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Yes, you were very polite. But you could have politely asked me to give you $10,000, and I wouldn't have done that either.
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Yet, you are offended by that. Rather than roll over and grovel at your feet and agree to cancel the word "hysterical" from the English language, I asked you to show me how the word is sexist. There is nothing unreasonable about that request. I even said to quote my words and expand and embellish them using whatever additional words you wanted to add, to create an illustration of how the word is sexist. Not many people would be willing to open themselves up to the abuse that could lead to, but I was. Time will tell if I ever see a response to that. Tell me, if I had said, "I watched the movie The Naked Gun last night. It was hysterical!" Would that have offended you? If not, why not? |
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04-12-2021, 12:15 AM | #348 | |
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(I'll certainly be pretty bloody suspicious the next time someone yells "well if you had asked POLITELY instead of being so ANGRY I might have listened to what you had to say!") --- * I did give you plenty of useful keywords with which you could have searched for yourself. You could start here, for example, not an especially unknown website, if you wanted to know more (though the last section is pretty nonsensical and needs work) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_hysteria https://browse.tedxvienna.at/blog/20...d-here-is-why/ https://www.vwt.org.au/why-hysteria-is-a-loaded-word/ Last edited by meeera; 04-12-2021 at 12:39 AM. |
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Did you notice that your first link, the one to the Wiki article, is specifically talking about "female hysteria" in medical diagnosis. The very first word in the article is "Female". And it's even in bold type. That is called a "qualifier" for the word that follows.
In your second link, the one at tedxvienna, did you notice that the paragraph about hysteria is talking about use of the word in describing a female. Their words were "Today people mainly use it to describe women, who cannot control themselves or are too emotional". Was I using the word to "describe women"? No. I was talking about media headlines. In your third link, they mention things like "calling a woman hysterical", "labeling her hysterical", etc. In every case, there is a qualifier that puts things in the perspective of a negative comment directed specifically at someone. In my case, I said "hysterical media". That is not a qualifier per se, but "media" is a noun and "hysterical" is an adjective. The adjective is describing the noun. There is no way anyone could have reasonably interpreted this to mean that I was talking about women. You need that qualifier to throw things into a sexist context. As a matter of fact, I said that exact thing earlier. Maybe you missed it (or ignored it). In either case, I will requote my words so that you can re-read them: Quote:
Oh, and by the way, your own quote below is a prime example of how context means everything: Quote:
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04-12-2021, 01:59 AM | #350 |
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And, getting back to the original thread, my wife got her second shot Friday, my son will get his second shot Monday, my daughter got her first shot on Saturday, and I will get my second shot on Friday.
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04-12-2021, 08:59 AM | #351 | |
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I’m going to close this thread and will post a new poll shortly, to reflect people’s updated status. Please don’t carry the off-topic discussions forward. |
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