01-23-2015, 07:23 PM | #76 | |
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01-23-2015, 07:34 PM | #77 |
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Or you could get Kodi (formerly xbmc) or Plex for free I have both running on a windows on an Intel NUC attached to the tv
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01-23-2015, 07:35 PM | #78 |
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I'm happy for the free upgrade. I have a lot of computers at home that I didn't want to pay for the Win 8 upgrade. And as I do have Win 8.1 computers, I'm looking for the nice upgrades I saw in Win 10
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01-24-2015, 04:15 AM | #79 | |
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You can choose not to run the mintupdate at all, then you do not have a icon. I have my mintupdate configured in such a way that it just shows an icon indicating available updates (please note that this is the default option). I click the icon, it asks me for a root passport, presents me with a list of packages that I can update (with a very reasonable pre-selection done for me) and then does its thing. I do not remember the update program ever asking me to reboot the machine or anything (it might need a reboot to start using a new kernel when you update the kernel). You can even update an application you are using at the moment (such as Firefox) and in vast majority of cases it goes smoothly. Next time you start an application you run the new version. Oh ... I almost forgot. It updates not just operating system but the vast majority of installed apps as well. The only thing it doesn't update on my system is Calibre (Calibre has its own system of notification), Vim text editor that I like to compile from the source and DraftSight. DraftSight is a third-party AutoCAD clone I have installed manually without using PPA. With PPA you just add another source for packages to your apt system, so it becomes part of ecosystem that gets updated automagically. |
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01-24-2015, 06:32 AM | #80 |
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I usually only ever upgrade with a new system, but I might take advantage of the free upgrade as long as its a big improvement on Windows 8. I'll probably experiment with my Mum's PC first though! It's running Windows 8.1 so 'needs' the upgrade more than my Windows 7 PC.
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01-24-2015, 06:39 AM | #81 | |
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01-24-2015, 06:58 AM | #82 | |
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Unfortunately, Windows has had those options for as long as Windows Update has existed, thus destroying your attempt to spread the FUD of the Linux disciple. Shari |
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01-24-2015, 08:56 AM | #83 | |
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I did not even *mention* Windows in my post. I was answering question about update nagging in Linux. I also mentioned that this is the default setting in Mint Linux. I use Windows at work and I support quite a few Windows users [at work and also among family and friends], so I am well aware what can be done in Windows. by the way, *this* is what proper looks like: <FUD> I also know how some PCs look after being used on the net by clueless users that open all the "OMG Ponies!" attachments [in mails from like-minded users] and install random crap from the net. </FUD> ;-) Last edited by kacir; 01-24-2015 at 09:06 AM. |
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01-24-2015, 09:25 AM | #84 | |
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For most users, the update system on a typical Linux distribution vs. Windows isn't going to make much of a difference. For people with a deeper interest, it's going to be a mixed bag. As an example: it is far easier to figure out which parts of the system are being updated under Linux and, in the case of Mint, the update priorities are more fine-grained. Descriptions of the nature of the update can be hit-and-miss. On the other hand, most Windows updates offer a better description if you follow the link to Microsoft's website. Yet there is no information about the nature of the update in the update software in most cases, which means that selectively approving updates involves a lot more work. None of that is FUD. It is a simple description of the differences. While Microsoft would probably be doing everyone a favour by making those better-than-Linux descriptions more easily available, it isn't a concern for most home users who can get away with simply approving all updates. (On the other hand, the rolling feature updates coming with Windows 10 make make it an issue for home users who don't want to adapt to more rapid change.) |
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01-24-2015, 12:20 PM | #86 | |
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Unfortunately, this seems to be a point that many people have trouble understanding. Those who are happy with what they want don't necessarily appreciate that other people have different expectations of their computers. Those who use the latest improvements don't appreciate that some people have different priorities for their time and money. |
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01-24-2015, 12:25 PM | #87 | |
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Most Windows updates allow you to delay updating, but There are fairly frequent reboots for updating that occur on their own. Some of these reboots seem to attempt to put everything back as it was while some of them leave you at the password screen. But even the ones that attempt to fool you buy putting some of the programs back as they were are a bit lame in this respect. Seems only MS programs go back as they were and not always as they were. I am curious and check my update history, and sure enough there was an update that for some reason they want to conceal. Used to be you could turn off updates, or receive notifications only, but now, even when Windows warns you that automatic updating is turned off, they still force an update regularly. I haven't looked into this extensively for several months but I doubt it has changed. If you have a foolproof method for disabling, while still maintaining full internet access, I would be happy to learn of it. Windows 8/8.1 has another method as well. You cannot use their app store if your OS is not up to date, even to upgrade apps you have purchased or spend money to purchase another. No loss to me, but for some it is. At one time for a short period, it seemed almost as if you had to be updated to update. And I have had batches of forced updates as little as an hour apart which seemed to be mainly to fix what the previous updates had broken. I like Windows, have been using mainly Windows since 3.0 so obviously I am used to it. Pretty sure I have had every version, even the short lived ones. I also have no problems with Linux, IOS, or android, But Windows 7 is still what I prefer so I just deal with it while muttering and moaning on occasion. But AFAIK there is no foolproof way to turn off updates completely in Windows 7. Please enlighten me. Helen |
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01-24-2015, 01:05 PM | #88 | |
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I have the Surface Pro 3 and it has four options. 1. Install Automatic update 2. Download updates but choose whether to install 3. Check for updates and choose whether to download and install 4. Never check for updates. |
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01-24-2015, 01:30 PM | #89 | |
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I have had option 2 selected, but it has installed them anyway but only after warning me for a day or so unless I rebooted. Now I have selected option 4 and will be pleasantly surprised if there is no indication of an impending update and/or the app store still works without them. Not that I won't do an update but I think I can hold off for a month or so just to see. Helen Well despite selecting never check for updates my Surface Pro 3 demanded I update this AM. Again, it is not like I don't update, just I would like to pick the time, and why give you the option to never check for updates when it is so blatantly ignored. Helen Last edited by speakingtohe; 01-25-2015 at 06:38 PM. |
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