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Actually, I find it ludicrous in general to pretend that any of the Big 6's recent actions/decisions were motivated by concern (even a teensy bit) for consumers. |
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Their real argument is that the book industry will become poorer and less productive. B&M stores will more rapidly go out of business, meaning that discovery options for authors will decline . Publishers will be subject to be squeezed by a monopsonistic retailer (Amazon) and and will therefore lack the resources to finance major nonfiction projects like Robert Caro's multi-volume biography of LBJ and to bet on ground breaking new authors . They also argue that the remedy provided will be an administrative nightmare . They make quite a few arguments, some better than others. If your focus is purely on prices short term, then those arguments will be unconvincing. |
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If its approved , the next step will be to see what the publishers make of what will be for all intents and purposes, wholesale contracts. |
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07-24-2012, 03:06 PM | #49 | |
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If Amazon becomes a monopoly by abusing said power, they can be busted up by the feds. You could have claimed the same thing about Apple + iTunes years ago, yet there's several places (like Amazon) selling music successfully. The way to fix a wrong (or in this case, prevent a wrong) is not another wrong. |
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And really? Do we really think that more people discover new authors working their way along shelves looking at spines than by following links and recommendations online? I've loved books for half a century and I was already discovering new print authors via the internet rather than in my beloved bookshops years before I switched to ebooks. Quote:
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In short, the retailers have to provide the publishers with detailed sales info in order for the publishers to properly police the discounting restrictions-info that the publishers are not now getting . Please read the whole thing, though, to get a full analysis of the problems. The DOJ has oversimplified the issue in its Response. |
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The publishers are free to agree whatever contracts they like with the retailers, barring Agency pricing for 2 years. If their chosen solution includes the sort of discounting restrictions Shatzkin proposes then they'll also come up with an agreement with the retailer on how to police it. Graham |
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The judge in the case is the one who will decide whether or not to accept the settlement. I don't know the whole process, but presumably the judge will go through the comments, and do his/her own research, and apply the relevant criteria. |
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But not always, of course. When Amazon had their effective monopoly over the e-book market, they did nothing to abuse their customers or those supplying the goods that they sell. The worst that you could say about their behaviour is that they used new titles and best sellers as loss leaders (and virtually every retail concern there ever has been has had loss leaders to entice people to buy their other stuff) - and even then that was only rarely, mostly selling them at about cost...
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It's not even about whether or not they are, or become, a monopoly - it's about whether they abuse their position as a monopoly to disadvantage customers and keep others out of the market (for example, jacking up prices for the customers (beyond reason - profit *is* allowed, after all), or forcing exclusivity or "most favored nation" agreements with their suppliers).
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That said, the price argument isn't the publisher's best. |
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